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Going against the trend is this report
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/02/world-verge-climate-catastophe
“Unfortunately many experts believe Earth’s population will actually peak well beyond 11 billion. “It could reach 15 billion,” said Sarah Harper, of Oxford’s Institute of Population Ageing. “All sorts of factors suggest women, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa, will still want to have relatively high numbers of children and this might keep the world’s population approaching 15 billion rather than 12 billion.”
The world will have double its present numbers – but with hugely reduced areas of fertile land to provide food. We will be living in a shrunken, scorched planet bursting with human beings.”
But this video is more insightful
A panel discussion on Is the Planet Full
FLOODSSvetlana Jevrejeva, at the National Oceanography Centre, Liverpool, has studied sea-level rises that will be triggered by melting ice sheets and expanding warm seawater in a world 3-5C hotter than it was in pre-industrial times, and concludes these could reach 0.74 to 1.8 metres by 2100. This would be enough to deluge Pacific and Indian Ocean island states and displace millions from Miami, Guangzhou, Mumbai and other low-lying cities. The total cost to the planet could top £11trillion.
Even then the seas will not stop rising, Jevrejeva added. “They will continue to climb for centuries even after greenhouse-gas levels have been stabilised. We could experience the highest-ever global sea-level rise in the history of human civilisation.”
Vast tracts of prime real estate will be destroyed – at a time when land will be needed with unprecedented desperation. Earth’s population stands at seven billion today and is predicted to rise to nine billion by 2050 and settle at over 11 billion by 2100 – when climate change will have wrecked major ecosystems and turned farmlands to dust bowls.
No region of the US has more to lose from climate change than southern Florida. If scientists’ worst predictions are realised, an entire metropolitan area, currently inhabited by more than six million people, is likely to be swamped by a 1.5-metre sea-level rise before the end of this century, a rise that could see the tourist mecca of Miami simply disappear. Up to a million Florida homes, worth an estimated $371bn (£290bn, are at risk of tidal flooding by 2100, one recent study calculated
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/02/world-verge-climate-catastophe
Trump officials are minimizing warnings from scientists by arguing they are exaggerated and based on the worst-case scenario. They say the National Climate Assessment (NCA) – an expansive federal government report on the dangers of climate change in the US – considers only the highest possible levels of greenhouse gas emissions.
“If you take the extreme case, you’re right, it’s dire,” Trump’s interior secretary, Ryan Zinke, said on Fox News. “If you take the best case, it’s not much.” Zinke, who has encouraged fossil fuel production on public lands, compared climate risks to the chance of nuclear war. “If you look at nuclear war, today we’re going to go home to a bunker and wear a hazardous suit,” he said. “That’s not the case.”
Acting Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) administrator Andrew Wheeler used some of the same phrasing, saying he “wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama administration told the report’s authors to take a look at the worst-case scenario for this report”. The Trump administration, he said, would need to “take a look at the modeling” for the next assessment, which is required by law.
Pennsylvania University climate scientist Michael Mann said “there is no truth to them whatsoever”. He added: “The report looked at an extremely wide range of scenarios. At nearly every juncture, we have actually underestimated the impacts that climate change is having. Sea levels are rising faster, ice is disappearing sooner and the incidence of extreme weather events is increasing faster than our projections from just a few years ago suggested.”
As you reference Epicurus, just been reading this article that also refers to him and Marx’s attitude.
But are you saying global warming/climate change is also a hoax and scaremongering.
If so, could you offer the reasons for this mis/disinformation.
(Some of us are also old enough to recall the threats of another ice age, more that the media produced the dangers with numerous movies but the scientific opinion never fully accepted Hollywood science)
An update on this new International
It’s website homepage video
Not sure how relevant but we have methane emissions from land-fill, leakage from fracking and the thawing of the tundra. So it is not all burps and farts.
Methane is not all negative – it can be captured and use as a green energy sourcce
Is it anti-semitic to say there exists a very effective Zionist lobby at work?
Marc Lamont Hill, a political commentator on CNN, had called for “a single secular democratic state for everyone” with a “free Palestine from the river to the sea” at a meeting at the UN marking the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People.
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said the “river to the sea” phrase was code for the destruction of Israel, adding that the annual UN event promoted “divisiveness and hate”.
Thought i broaden the topic to protests in general
School strike
<p class=”story-body__introduction”>Thousands of Australian school students have urged greater action on climate change in protests across the country. The students skipped school on Friday to highlight what they say are inadequate climate policies by the Australian government. School Strike 4 Climate Action protests have been held in every state capital and 20 regional towns.</p>
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46380418https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140327111724.htm
<p id=”first” class=”lead”>”While carbon dioxide is typically painted as the bad boy of greenhouse gases, methane is roughly 30 times more potent as a heat-trapping gas. New research in the journal Nature indicates that for each degree that Earth’s temperature rises, the amount of methane entering the atmosphere from microorganisms dwelling in lake sediment and freshwater wetlands — the primary sources of the gas — will increase several times. As temperatures rise, the relative increase of methane emissions will outpace that of carbon dioxide from these sources, the researchers report.”</p>
But perhaps we are getting into the area of what is it better to die of, cholera or typhus ..Just read it and it has many useful observations
But when it comes to actual strategies to change things, they like us are imho invisible to the eco-activists
Afed advises Extinction Rebellion on online security
An Urgent Message for Everyone Joining the Extinction Rebellion
2018 is set to be the fourth warmest on record, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) The long-term warming trend has continued in 2018, with the past four years being the warmest in 138-years of climate record keeping. The past four years have been the hottest on record, and the 20 warmest have occurred in the past 22 years. Average temperatures around the world so far this year were nearly 1C (33.8F) above pre-industrial levels.
“We are not on track to meet climate change targets and rein in temperature increases…Greenhouse gas concentrations are once again at record levels and if the current trend continues we may see temperature increases 3-5 degrees C by the end of the century,” WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas said in the statement. “If we exploit all known fossil fuel resources, the temperature rise will be considerably higher.”https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/29/four-years-hottest-record-climate-change
Wish they fix the formatting problems of the forum soon for it makes things difficult to read. -edit- i see someone did
Somethings are happening right now, though, aren’t there?
The slowdown in EU migrants (but that can also be explained by the drop in the pound-value and not necessarily all to do with Brexit) They are predicting a labour shortage and the evidence is there right now for it.
Already concessions being made with special deals for special workers – the farm-workers, not exactly the same as the appeal for caps on EU workers in the IT industry made recently. I note Australia is also having trouble with lack of workers on the farms and relaxing visa regulations.
