Zionism and anti semitism
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Don’t understand. What is it you’ve never heard of? ‘Cultural Marxism’? Really?? Apparently http://www.unz.com (to give just one example) is not on your daily or even monthly reading list.The ideas about the objectives/function of the Frankfurt School etc are mostly the doing of the world’s leading and most scholarly anti-semite, Kevin MacDonald. (No, not the film director.) Here, in this interview, interested persons can familiarise themselves in concentrated form with his views. (The idiotic term ‘Cultural Marxism’ is, however, not used in the interview.)(The mentioned ‘CoC’ refers to a series of books by him, sympathetically summarised on this ‘alternative’ Wikipedia: https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_group_evolutionary_strategy . )The term cultural Marxism has been used for many years and I have been rejecting it for many years too It is also associated with the so called political correctness current It has been used by the anarcho capitalist and some anarchists groups to discredit Marx The socialist party should write an article about it due to the fact that someone leninista groups have rejected it including the ICC and some Trotsky because the proponents of that theory are saying that Trotsky was a Zionist
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/19/cultural-marxism-a-uniting-theory-for-rightwingers-who-love-to-play-the-
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“>‘Cultural Marxism’: a uniting theory for rightwingers who love to play the victim
The culture war that so defines current debates between the left and right sides of politics has its history in the barmy theory of ‘cultural Marxism’
What are they talking about? The tale varies in the telling, but the theory of cultural Marxism is integral to the fantasy life of the contemporary right. It depends on a crazy-mirror history, which glancingly reflects things that really happened, only to distort them in the most bizarre ways.
This article considers that Marxism and Cultural Marxism is the 1 enemy of Western Civilization
The American roots of a right wing conspiracy
The irony is that she singled out Jeremy Corbyn as a “cultural Marxist”:
“I’m very aware of that ongoing creep of cultural Marxism which has come from Jeremy Corbyn.”
So, while some accuse Corbyn of being an anti-Semite, she accuses him of being part of a Jewish conspiracy. Neither is true of course.
The other thing is she comes from a group which played a similar role in East Africa as Jews did in eastern Europe, the “Kenya Asians” — traders who were unpopular with the local peasants whose prejudices were exploited by self-serving politicians and who as a consequence were persecuted and eventually expelled from both Kenya and later Uganda (by the notorious Idi Amin) and who were not welcomed here. In fact the then Labour government introduced race-based immigration controls to try to make it difficult for them to come (still in force incidentally, British overseas citizens still have no right to come to live in Britain unless their father or grandfather was born here):
You’d have thought she that instead of indulging in anti-Semitism she might have had some empathy with Jews. But there could be a simpler explanation: that she is simply a fool who picked up the term from US conservative stuff she had been reading without realising its connotation.
Maybe Marcuse, Fromm etc were on the wrong track in adding Freud to Marx to try to explain why workers support capitalism, but they still made some good points (Fromm especially).
Another one who tried to make similar analysis was a Psychiatrist from Martinique known as Franz Fanon but he applied it to the process of colonization in the minds of the slaves and the peoples colonized by the European powers, he also used the term:” Colonized mentality”, similar conception was used by the lawyers in the USA who represented the case against the precedent known as: Separate but Equal
The Labour Party expels Jackie Walker for anti-Semitism.
You would think it might be relevant that the article would explain that Walker is herself Jewish but it doesn’t.
That her remarks of Jewish being “chief financiers of the sugar and slave trade” may be based on her own family history in that she is descended partly from a Portuguese Jew who came to the West Indies during the days of Christopher Columbus and a female slave, who converted to Judaism on marriage but the article omits that context.
She herself self-identifies as Jewish, saying, , “I certainly wouldn’t call myself an anti-Semite. I’m Jewish and my partner is Jewish.”
Yet it is her Jewish critics who deny her Jewishness, applying criteria that Israel itself ignores, regards the Law of Return.
This is a world of confusing terminologies. I wonder how some peoples get the idea that Liberalism and communism are compatible conceptions, the new terminology is socialist-liberal, coincidentally all those confused conceptions have been created in the USA, and they are repeated without known the meaning of them.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/03/muslims-jews-white-supremacists
“…A recent Pew survey of 15 western European countries found that “attitudes toward Jews and Muslims are highly correlated with each other. People who express negative opinions about Muslims are more likely than others to also express negative views of Jews.” In the US, a Gallup study in 2010found people “who say they feel ‘a great deal’ of prejudice… toward Jews are about 32 times as likely to report feeling ‘a great deal’ of prejudice toward Muslims”. Put simply, the kind of people who hate one of us are more likely to hate the other too… It is long past time that we Muslims and we Jews looked beyond our undeniable differences, recognise that we face a common and deadly threat, and agree there is only one way to fight it: together.”
Simply confirming the reality on the ground Netanyahu states Israel will annex territory on the occupied West Bank.
Where is the condemnation?
On the annexation of the Golan Heights, the media’s blinkers
I recall decades ago listening to a CIA chief on the radio discussing KGB releasing stories. He said the thing to look at foremost is not the why of it but the when of it.
Is this leak a coincidence when seen on the timeline of Netanyahu’s announcement of annexation of the West Bank? Maybe not since the Israeli’s statement seemed to have been impromptu electioneering for votes.
However, nobody in all the articles which i have read has asked the question who was it who illegally hacked into the Labour Party’s e-mail system to obtain this information? Who is it spying on the Labour Party? An inside job or the work of an external intelligence agency? Surely it is an important detail for the media to investigate and speculate about.
I wonder if I could place another spin on this …
Of the nearly half of the cases reported, 200 did not merit any further inquiry, 145 were of a minor trangression and fewer than 30 were expelled. 200 cases are being studied with 245 are still in line to be looked at.
Or instead of the Kangaroo court, critics insist on a lynch mob approach… Rush through expulsions based on accusations only.
I was going to ask if you believe that black people can’t be racist because they are black, but then I remembered, that it doesn’t matter.
Literally, who cares if anti-Zionism is labelled anti-Semitism or Corbyn is labelled an anti-Semite? It’s not like Labour is going to bring socialism through gradual reform or it has anything more than marginal support among the British society at large.
In that line of thought, who cares if Israel, a liberal-capitalist nation-state, violates “international law”, an invention of liberal capitalist nation-states designed to preserve the hold of capitalists over lands that rightfully belong to the commons?
Furthermore, who cares how Labour police its crazy members and for what “crimes”?
This fixation with Israel is nothing more than capitalist political squabble and spending more than 20 minutes over tea discussing it does nothing to further the socialist cause. On the contrary, it only alienates potential Jewish supporters.
The socialist critique on Israel is merely a part of a much broader critique of nationalism and has absolutely no reason to worry of being unjustly labelled as racist at least not beyond the usual smearing of the right which will happen regardless.
In my opinion, this whole thread is pointless picking of a wound that should be closed and left to heal, preferably as soon as possible.
“I was going to ask if you believe that black people can’t be racist because they are black, but then I remembered, that it doesn’t matter.”
It matters very much if you happen to be in South Africa and subject to xenophobic attacks. Our Africa-focused blog has frequently posted about anti-foreigner racist violence.
There is also the issue of “lighter-skinned” V “darker-skinned” prejudice in various countries.
Divide and Rule tactics are not colour blind.
Is this thread’s topic a fixation? Or simply addressing events in the news as the many other topics on the forum do?
Yes, I suppose it will alienate many of our Israeli fellow-workers who support and condone the government they repeatedly vote for and the actions it takes to maintain rule. But I just wonder how many of those who are not critical of such policies are going to ever be potential members.
There are some Israelis and some in the Jewish diaspora who may hold similar views on nationality and nations as ourselves. Hopefully, we might be able to engage with these fellow-workers.
I think one thing you also overlooked is that the moves leading to criminalizing the socialist case is not merely about race but is now focused on the criticism of religion and causing “offence” by accusations of anti-semite and islamophobia.
Militant followers of Hindutva in India are also involved in this suppression of secularism. As, of course, Pakistani and Bangladesh Muslim extremists target atheists. Our platform against religion is being put under siege as it very much was in Northern Ireland when paramilitary religious sectarianism dominated the political scene.
But we can agree that when we criticize Zionism, we also denounce demands for either One-State or Two-State Palestinian nationalism. We are perhaps guilty of not highlighting that fact as much as we should.
But the SOYMB blog has directed its criticism against both Hamas and the PA as being institutions of our class-enemy when anti-worker events are reported in the news.
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