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AI Overview +12 “The commercial harvesting of kangaroos for “K-leather” used in high-end football boots has sparked major global outcry over extreme cruelty. Because female kangaroos are often shot at night, their dependent joeys become collateral damage—they are either bludgeoned or decapitated by shooters, or left orphaned to die from starvation, cold, and predation.The Reality of the Kangaroo Leather TradeThe commercial kangaroo harvest in Australia is the largest land-based wildlife slaughter in the world, heavily driven by the demand for lightweight, durable leather in premium soccer cleats.Collateral Damage: According to animal protection agencies, hundreds of thousands of infant joeys are orphaned or killed alongside their mothers annually.Official Guidelines: Under Australia’s National Code of Practice, shooters are instructed to kill pouch joeys via a single heavy blow to the head (concussive strike) or decapitation. Older “at-foot” joeys that flee into the dark often die from predation, exposure, or starvation without their mother.Welfare Concerns: Animal rights groups frequently cite poor enforcement and the inherent cruelty of unmonitored mass night-shootings as major concerns.Industry Shifts and the Push for SyntheticsFacing massive public pressure and campaigning by animal rights organizations, the tide is turning against the use of kangaroo leather in sports.Major sportswear brands including Nike, Puma, New Balance, Adidas, and ASICS have announced plans to phase out or completely stop using kangaroo leather in their products.Brands like Sokito have moved entirely to vegan and recycled alternatives, proving that high-performance athletic gear does not require animal skins.Several US states have introduced legislation to ban the sale of kangaroo parts, and similar import bans have been debated in the European Union.”
“their mothers are shot and skinned for the beautiful game.” and this is a criticism of football.
Trees were chopped down to produce the socialist standard. Head Office used fossil fuels leaving many of my aunties pit widows for the Beautiful Socialist Standard. Really??
SS was printed during the Falkland war. Correlation is not cause and effect.Poor debating skills on this forum to say the least.
Again, Wez, you attempt to dig yourself out of a hole by conflating “football culture” from your original posting to “football gang violence”. Nice try, but rather pathetic. And again you make the uncomradely, inaccurate and frankly libelous remark that I wish to whitewash these activities.
Saying everything in football isn’t bad, isn’t saying everything is wonderful, as you well know. If you had the courage of your convictions and you had evidence to support your contention that the whole culture is rotten to the core, you clearly wouldn’t have tried to move the discussion away from football culture to football violence.
It is a bit like you blaming the birth of Rock and Roll, Bill Haley, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, et al, for the Teddy Boy violence that broke out in the 1950s and then describe Rock and Roll in the terms you have used. Teddy Boys were a very small aspect of Rock and Roll Culture, Football Gangs were a small aspect of football culture and what remains of football gang culture in the UK is something that the vast majority of football fans and participants used to and continue to condemn, me included.
As I have explained on several occasions, what you describe as “football culture” actually covers a wide spectrum of human activities and belief systems. I have also explained that to describe all elements of such a wide ranging area of human endeavours as being the “sickest, racist, atavistic and most violent” culture in the country (As I have said before, your words not mine), is foolhardy and factually wrong. It is therefore for you to justify your words. It is for you to show that by pointing out that this is such a silly, wide ranging and ridiculous comment I am somehow whitewashing any of the negative parts. It is you who has made universal claims, not me. I still challenge you to explain how football culture is more sick, more racist, more atavisitc and more violent than Nazism, snuff movies, skin head gangs, gay bashing, fox hunting, paedophilia, drug culture, I’m all ears mate.
I have pointed out that there are many areas of football that have very positive aspects, youth participation, sporting activity, mutual organisation, anti racism, etc. Explain to me how these things are sick, racist, atavistic and violent.
You then follow up your silly comments by making even an even sillier one. “No other sport been associated with such levels of violence and criminality”, I didn’t even need to point our how stupid that comment was. Other posters have beaten me to it. Boxing almost by definition is more violent, it has violence as its basic foundation and the level of criminality involved in boxing is legendary. I think the level of criminality of the Kray Brothers alone would knock football gangs into a cocked hat. You could also take a good look at the sport of horse racing, a sport that has had elements linked to organised crime for many decades. Are you saying that Ice Hockey is not associated with violence. You might also even want to look at the civil disorder that broke out in Leicester in 2022 following the India v Pakistan cricket match and spot fixing in cricket for examples of criminally and violent associations.
TM, you said that – “I could be wrong, but I don’t think they socialise much.”, I cannot comment in international football, my only experience of it was when Newcastle hosted group games during the European championships. All I can say in terms of that was that the fans of Romania, France and Bulgaria mixed with the locals in a very friendly way.
The atmosphere in football stadiums and their surrounds has changed immensely since the 1970ss 80s. I have been welcomed as a visiting supporter in Holland, Italy, Spain, Germany, etc. I watched a Newcastle v Paris match in a bar in central Paris as I couldn’t get a ticket. I honestly couldn’t get my hand in my pocket to buy a drink as locals were coming up to us and buying drinks for us all night. They celebrated their luck in getting a last minute penalty and we complained about the same thing. We sang and drank and played pool and chatted until the wee small hours.
I have also been to towns and cities across England and Wales where the welcome has been terrific. I well remember back in the 80s when Newcastle played Swansea at Swansea. The game was called off due to torrential storms on the Saturday and was rearranged on the following day. I heard loads of stories of supporters who decided to stay in Swansea and were about to sleep rough in bus shelters, etc. having local people come around to offer them a bed for the night and breakfast in the morning.
That is not to say that it is all sunshine and roses. I have been at matches which had less than pleasant atmospheres. I particularly remember going to Newcastle play at Nottingham Forest in the middle of the miners’ strike. Lots of North East Miners came down to the match as they could legitimately go to Nottingham without being arrested. There was a huge banner put on the back of the away end which read “Victory to the Miners” and there was a confrontational atmosphere all day.
As I say, “football culture” is not some universal monolithic social structure and to condemn the whole thing, including youth football, participant football at all levels, football spectators, all manner of football clubs professional to the lowest level, etc. is silly beyond belief.
Going back to Wez, I fully understand that you don’t like football. You are fully entitled to not like football, I can’t stand musical theatre, but to question someones socialist integrity because they like football is a bit beyond the pale. As I say, you are entitled to not enjoy football, but life not all about you, is it?
So, Little Marra, a joey who has seen his mother shot and is traumatised and hiding, is no different from a discarded branch off a tree.
Good to know.Pathetic.
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Books prioritizedAll justifying slaughter for football games, does it?
People have been making books for centuries and trees can be replanted. There is more deforestation in electronic gadgets as natural habitats are laid waste and gorillas etc., exterminated in clearance for landfill for old computers and gadgets.
“exterminated in clearance for landfill for your old computers and gadgets” so how are the computers mine, rather than ours, or even yours TM? Are you trying to shift the blame.
I presume you are using a computer or a smart phone to write on this forum, rather than two old tin cans and a bit of string?
Thousands have cried out because they are appalled at the deliberate slaughtering of kangaroos and the terror unleashed on these animals for the sake of a game, but obviously not a socialist.
Any wonder our numbers are low, when we show such callousness to the fate of other living beings just because they’re not human so are obviously just things, resources? People’s attitudes are changing, and that is where there might be hope for a socialist world one day – but no thanks to socialists, who don’t give a f***.
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