Streets protests in the USA

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  • #206453
    alanjjohnstone
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    Our blog has addressed this question

    https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2015/09/their-holiday-and-ours.html

    Labor Day  began in 1882, four years BEFORE Haymarket and eight years BEFORE the first international May Day in 1890.

    The origins of Labour Day can be traced back to April 15, 1872, when the Toronto Trades Assembly organized Canada’s first significant demonstration for worker’s rights. The aim of the demonstration was to release the 24 leaders of the Toronto Typographical Union who were imprisoned for striking to campaign for a nine-hour working day. At this time, trade unions were still illegal and striking was seen as a criminal conspiracy to disrupt trade. In spite of this, the Toronto Trades Assembly was already a significant organization and encouraged workers to form trade unions. In December 1872 a parade was staged in support of the Toronto Typographical Union’s strike for a 58-hour work-week. The Toronto Trades Assembly called its 27 unions to demonstrate in support of the Typographical Union.

    Americans first celebrated Labor Day Tuesday, Sept. 5, 1882, in New York City. A parade with 10,000 workers marched from City Hall to Union Square. In July of 1882 Peter J. McGuire, the co-founder of the American Federation of Labor was invited to speak in Toronto at a labour festival and was impressed. He organized the first American Labor Day Parade in New York in September 1882.

    In the USA, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the military during the 1894 Pullman Strike,  Congress unanimously rushed through  legislation that made Labor Day a national holiday; President Grover Cleveland signed it into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would be associated with the nascent socialist workers movements that rallied to commemorate the Haymarket Affair on May, 1st, the International Workers’ Day.

    #206461
    PartisanZ
    Participant

    Some links to above events.

    Pulman strike

    Toronto origins

    Haymarket Affair

    #206595
    ALB
    Keymaster

    What are we to make of this?

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-54138247

    Hume was in effect an agnostic and a sceptic who is still studied by all students of philosophy in Britain. He did support slavery and needn’t have done as others at the time didn’t.

    That other philosopher taught in all British and American universities, John Locke, drew up a constitution for Carolina which provided for chattel slavery.

    Another one, Thomas Jefferson, fathered children with one of his slaves. Rabbie Burns was going to take up a job as a slave overseer in the West Indies.

    All this needs to be pointed out of course, drawing attention to the feet of clay of the great philosophers of the rising bourgeoisie. But I would have they that it’s much more important to refute their ideas than pulling down their statues or renaming buildings (as a prelude to banning their books?).

    One philosopher who might escape this is Plato since he was at one point bought and sold as a slave himself. Not that it prevented him proposing a caste system as the ideal way to organise society.

    #206600
    Anonymous
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    In any way they are going to do what they have been doing for more than  250 years which is  to vote for the continuation of capitalism and to place their class enemies in  power and to continue invading and  killing human being in other countries. Nothing new. The placebo is coming and the movement will die and bourgeois  nationalism and racial identity will continue Without genuine socialists  principles in the brains nothing will change. Tailgating the ruling class

    #206603
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/15/mexico-identifies-first-mayan-slave-ship

    The ship had been used to take Mayas captured during and 1847-1901 rebellion known as “The War of the Castes” to work in sugarcane fields in Cuba. Slavery was illegal in Mexico at the time, but operators of similar ships had reportedly deceived Mayas left landless by the conflict to “sign on” as contract workers, often in Cuba, though they were treated like slaves.

    #206609
    Anonymous
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    Tainos were also taken as slaves by Christopher Columbus but they were shipped to Spain. It is curious that the Mexican revolution eliminated slavery before the USA. Sugar is like an old workers unions leader said: Sugar how bitter you are !!!  He was referring to all the suffering, deaths and oppression experimented by the workers of the sugar industry

    #206622
    alanjjohnstone
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    #206714
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Intelligence failure or agent provocateur

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/19/police-antifa-arson-wildfire-conspiracy-theories

    Experts say that the conspiracy theories being voiced on the ground largely reflect those cooked up earlier in the intelligence arms of federal agencies.

    #206974
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The Right continues to portray Rittenhouse as a patriot and have raised $2 million for his legal defence and produced this video

    #206976
    james19
    Participant

    Headline for a 17-year-old murderer vs. headline for a 17-year-old victim

    I hope he rots in jail

    This tweet got almost 300,000 Likes. There’s mileage in this.👍

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by james19.
    #206978
    james19
    Participant

    Rittenhouse is a murdering thug. Videos on Twitter show him hitting a girl.

    The tale of 2 murders. Within minutes of Trumps tweet a guy who was sitting in his car minding his own business was shot dead by cops.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by james19.
    • This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by james19.
    #206982
    Anonymous
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    And they have spent several decades talking against  the Nazis youth brown shirts, and the ISIS militias, but the USA government is supporting its own version of the Brownshirts and the  ISIS American militias ( Christians instead of Islamic, like they have one in Brasil head by the son of Bolsonaro  )  who are willing to kill anybody in order to defend and protect their leaders in power, and they want to nominate to the Supreme Court a member of a fanatic  secret catholic organization which oppose homosexuals, abortion, favor xenophobia, and all those beatifull principles supported by the rights wingers and the German Nazis and the Italians Fascists

    #206991
    alanjjohnstone
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    Black Panther released after nearly 50 yrs in jail

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/24/jalil-muntaqim-former-black-panther-to-be-released-49-years-prison

    He said that in his many years behind bars he had matured from the revolutionary position that he adopted in 1971, though he remained committed to the cause of racial equality and justice.

    “I now take the ‘r’ off the word and make it ‘evolutionary’,” he said. “Revolution for me is the evolutionary process of building a higher level of consciousness in society at large. I’m an evolutionary revolutionary.”

    #206992
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The second amendment was not applicable to him, or to the Black Panthers, to the slaves or the natives. It is a racist law

    #208007
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The right-wing may be fixated on Antifa but this shows where the real threat comes from

    https://apnews.com/article/michigan-checks-and-balances-archive-gretchen-whitmer-da09ca66cd8d5f36722021d3593425ff

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