August 9, 2023 at 1:47 pm #245731
John Donne’s Holy Sonnet 14, titled “Batter my heart,” asks God to increase the strength of divine force to win over the poet’s soul. The poet begins by asking God to use force to assault his heart, like battering down a door. Donne blends elements of the Italian (Petrarchan) sonnet with the English (Shakespearean) sonnet. He begins in the Italian form abba abba, but his concluding idea in the third quatrain bleeds over into the rhyming couplet that completes the poem.0 The poet is picturing an afflicted lover of God who is hurt because he is deviated from the holy path to the sinful path.
It would nice to post poetry here too.August 10, 2023 at 1:31 pm #245749chelmsfordParticipant
O Christ no. Not poetry. The music videos are bad enough.August 10, 2023 at 2:43 pm #245752twcParticipant
I appreciate it’s a mere sideline to the main thing—world socialism.
But perhaps it’s a minor improvement on (or diversion from) the vitriolic attacks against world socialism from recent opponents (purportedly made from a “socialist” standpoint).August 10, 2023 at 5:12 pm #245753Lizzie45Participant
O Christ no. Not poetry. The music videos are bad enough.
Absolutely, especially the ones emanating from OZ 🙂 🙂 🙂
Never thought I’d agree with you, Essex Boy!August 10, 2023 at 6:53 pm #245754ALBKeymaster
What was wrong with OZ?
But I agree. No poetry please. We have a ban on it in the Socialist Standard as every time we have published a poem, lots of budding McGonagles sent in theirs.August 10, 2023 at 8:16 pm #245755Bijou DrainsParticipant
t’was in the summer of two thousand and twenty three
No poetry please did Chelmsford plea!
“I agree with that sentiment” our contributer ALB demanded!
especially not in the pages of the Socialist Standard.
The consensus did in everyone’s heart form
no more contributions from this particular art form.
So it was resolved to banish poetry from the forum.
Publishing poetry on this site would in future is a breach of decorum
August 10, 2023 at 8:56 pm #245757
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I don’t think, at least I hope, I’m in a minority of one when it comes to championing poetry.
Some song lyrics can obviously be quite profound and read as poetry. At the recent Summer School there was a booklet distributed which contained poems, and a song, on the topic of work. Not McGonagle but including Larkin and D H Lawrence. There are many examples out there of anti -capitalist and pro-socialism poems. There is a joy in sharing music that others may, or may not be familiar with. I hesitate to suggest that only philistines would not want to do the same with poetry. Percy Shelley’s Masque of Anarchy final stanza is no doubt often quoted by socialists.
I would have to disagree strongly that poetry is not decorous. The SOYMB blog has a resident poet where his very apposite thoughts regularly appear.
There is no right or wrong way of interpreting poetry. Dylan Thomas’s Do not go gently into that good night, Rage rage.. can be utilised as an anti- capitalist poem. Next time I’m out with a spray can writing Abolish Capitalism! graffiti I might have to add underneath, Poetry Rocks!August 10, 2023 at 10:29 pm #245758AlmamaterParticipant
There had been poets who were members of communists parties such as Pablo Neruda and Pedro Mir who wrote beautiful poems dedicated to the working class Some poems written by several poets have been used as lyrics for some beautiful musical creation Most boleros are like poems written by romantic composers
August 11, 2023 at 6:25 am #245760ALBKeymaster
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The “ban” (or, rather, discouragement) only applies to new poems offered by Party members, not of course to the classics, Shelley, DH Lawrence, etc whose poems have been quoted from time to time.
For instance:August 11, 2023 at 10:13 am #245764chelmsfordParticipant
If by ‘Essex boy’ Lizzie means ‘philistine’ I’ll have her know I can recite plenty of poems from memory ( where else?). Admittedly they are all about young ladies from various parts of the world ( China, Nantucket, Biarritz, Ealing etc). I like the poem that begins ‘Thirty days hath September’ because it tells you something, and the untitled classic that begins: ‘Sir Issac Newton told us why, an apple falls down from the sky…’ warning the proletariat to wear the proper protective clothing ( hard hats and boots) at work.August 11, 2023 at 12:39 pm #245765Lizzie45Participant
What was wrong with OZ?
Not that OZ. D’oh!August 11, 2023 at 1:36 pm #245766
What We Can Learn from Neruda’s Poetry of Resistance
The Paris Review 26 March, 2016August 11, 2023 at 1:40 pm #245767August 11, 2023 at 6:52 pm #245768
This is for everyone who attended Summer School, and for everyone who didn’t.
That’s What Work Is Tom RussellAugust 11, 2023 at 8:58 pm #245769
Oliver Anthony. Rich Men North of Richmond
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