Keir Starmer New Labour Party Leader

MAY 2022 Forums General discussion Keir Starmer New Labour Party Leader

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    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Ken Loach on Starmer

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/28/democracy-keir-starmer-labour-left-ken-loach

    You cannot criticise Starmer’s leadership, and you cannot criticise the fact that such criticism is not allowed.

    #222844
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Intrigued by this tweet from Will Hutton, in which he implied that Starmer in his now notorious 13,000 word essay advocated a “contribution society” where the principle “from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs” would apply, I thought I should have a look at it.

    I have not read it all yet, but I can already report that (fortunately) he doesn’t mention the word “socialism” but is even afraid to use the word “capitalism”. His so-called “contribution society” seems to be one people contribute by working hard and get paid a “fair wage”.

    I will report more when I have finished reading it.

    #222848
    Young Master Smeet
    Participant

    The stuff about the difference between nationalism and patriotism is pure humpty-dumpty. He just wants to be a patriot while still being able to attack the SNP, there is no intellectual weight at all in the whole document, it’s come out of a random soundbite generator.

    #222906
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Finished reading it now and you’re right. There’s nothing there. Just politician-speak. There will be a “better, brighter future” for “hard-working families” under the next Labour government working in “partnership with business” promoting “world class“ innovation, blah, blah, blah. Just substitute Tory or LibDem for Labour and you have their promises too.

    It really is:

    Labour, Liberal, Tory
    Same old same old story.

    #222907
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I see his conference speech was repeatedly heckled whereupon the spin-doctors say it was a positive sign. Astonishing logic. It makes True Scotsman on the other thread absolutely rational in declaring the Moscow trials fair.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/29/labour-heckling-shows-party-is-moving-on-say-starmer-allies

    Weekly Worker will be an interesting read at the end of the week

    #222914
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I have to admit that he did make one sensible point:

    “Nationalism is just one arm of the rise of identity-based politics in the Western world that has done immense damage to the progressive cause. By dividing people into smaller and smaller groups and diminishing the experiences of others, we atomise our society ever more and keep potential allies and friends at arm’s length.”

    But I couldn’t find anything else.

    #222918
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Another Guardian article, endeavouring to create the cult of the personality for the “toolmaker’s son”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/29/classy-keir-starmer-dares-to-blair-but-leaves-us-wanting-less

    #222923
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Jonathan Cook on Starmer.

    Labour’s Palestine motion means Keir Starmer’s war on the left is not over

    Sadly. JC still hold to the idea that nationalisation is socialism

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