Iran tensions

December 2022 Forums General discussion Iran tensions

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  • #231387

    Sometimes Chris Hedges gets a little dramatic. It has been proven that Iran is not planning to have an atomic bomb, they have gone thru many inspections and they have not found any evidence. Israel is the only country in the Middle East which has atomic bombs. A war with Iran might create a great mess in the Middle East probably worst Tham the war in Ukraine

    #231489
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Who is being intransigent?

    https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20220722-iran-s-nuclear-programme-is-galloping-ahead-iaea-chief-says

    Iran’s Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian was quoted on Friday as saying his country and the United States were very close to a deal to revive the 2015 accord, but that Tehran needed U.S. guarantees to avoid getting “bitten twice”.

    “We have a ready text in front of us and we agree on more than 95 to 96 percent of its content, but there’s still an important flaw in this text: we need to get the full economic benefits of the agreement. We don’t want to be bitten twice,” Iranian media quoted Amirabdollahian as saying

    #232004
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Their views will be ignored but opinion polls in America do not reflect the bellicose policies advocated by the chicken-hawks of the pro-Israel lobby and instead diplomacy should be the policy

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/05/polling-makes-clear-americans-dont-want-war-iran

    In a survey of 1,330 likely voters, 78 percent of respondents said Washington must use its best diplomatic tools to “put an immediate end to Iran’s nuclear weapons program,” while only 12 percent agreed with the statement that the United States “must go to war with Iran in order to slow down its nuclear weapons development.”

    74 percent of likely voters polled said they supported a deal that would use international monitoring to stop Iran’s nuclear program from progressing. On the other side, eight percent favored military action that would set the program back “by years,” and five percent supported the current path, even if it would allow Iran to develop a weapon in the next year.

    A slim majority (56 percent) of Republicans would support a “new agreement to limit Iran’s nuclear program,” even if that accord was based on the original deal.

    #232279
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Seems like good news.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/19/iran

    A European proposal to revive the nuclear agreement between Western countries and Iran is imminent and includes the release of billions of dollars in frozen Iranian funds and oil exports in return for the scaling back of its nuclear programme.

    Iran’s negotiating team adviser Mohammad Marandi said earlier this week “we’re closer than we’ve been before” to securing a deal and the “remaining issues are not very difficult to resolve”.

    the proposal stipulates on the day after the agreement is signed, sanctions on 17 Iranian banks as well as 150 economic institutions will be lifted.

    This forum will be interested in who tries to block the agreement

    #232302

    They are just looking for a cheaper petroleum alternative due to their war with Russia. Several month ago they initiated conversations with Venezuela, and also Russia was buying drones from Iran. They do not want Iran to have atomic bombs but Israel is an atomic power in the Middle East, and they were the ones who provided those weapons. It is the same agreement made during the presidency of Barrack Obama with certain modifications, it is similar to the new agreement made with Donald Trump with Mexico, it is same ones made during Obama with certain modifications.

    #232325
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The optimism of an agreement with Iran may be premature.

    Axios’ Barak Ravid reported over the weekend the Biden administration has told Israel that it “hasn’t agreed to new concessions with Iran” and that the U.S., European nations, and Iran are not on the verge of a deal, even after Tehran engaged with and offered its response to what E.U. leaders characterized as a “final” offer.

    The U.S. has yet to formally respond to the E.U. text or Iran’s written reply.

    Iran accused the U.S. of stalling progress toward an agreement, with a spokesperson for Iran’s Foreign Ministry saying that “the Americans are procrastinating and there is inaction from the European sides.”

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/22/biden-officials-reportedly-assure-israel-revived-iran-nuclear-deal-not-imminent

    #233114
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster
    #233217
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I may be far off the mark but somehow I got the feeling that this story is linked to both the reports of Iran supplying Russia with weaponry and the impending agreement talks on nuclear power.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/14/our-lives-are-destroyed-families-take-fight-for-truth-of-flight-752-to-icc

    No mention of the USA shooting down Iran 655 by USS Vincennes. The U.S. government issued notes of regret for the loss of human lives, but never formally apologized or acknowledged wrongdoing.

    The crew of USS Vincennes were awarded Combat Action Ribbons for completion of their tours in a combat zone. The air warfare coordinator on duty received the Navy Commendation Medal. Captain Rogers was awarded the Legion of Merit “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer”

    #233218

    A dispute among bandits of capitalism and some leftist groups are supporting Iran because is an enemy of the USA and Israel but the capitalist class of Iran is also expansionist like the capitalist class of Israel and the USA and Russia,

    It is the same case for the leftist groups who are supporting the government of Syria because it is anti-imperialist but the Russian capitalists who are also imperialist are fighting along with them.

    They have removed the pages from the book of Rosa Luxembourg which says that any capitalist country is potentially expansionist or imperialist.

    The USA is negotiating with Iran because they want to get petroleum, in the same way, that they are secretive in negotiation with the government of Venezuela, instead of using its own reserve

    #233402
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster
    #233457
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Protests Persist.

    Is it the start of the fall of the Ayatollahs?

    Nine people are now reported to have been killed at protests in Iran sparked by the death of a woman detained for allegedly breaking strict hijab rules.

    Among those reported killed is a 16-year-old boy, shot dead when security forces opened fire on protesters.

    The unrest has spread to more than 20 major cities, including the capital Tehran.

    #233501
    james19
    Participant

    Shocking the death of a woman who wore the wrong attire.
    She was beaten up in a police van.
    On FB, I recall reading a post saying; “beat them up in the van”…during a fb live video, where youths had gathered as cops hold down a ‘suspect’ who were giving the old bill, one guy, in particular, verbal abuse, Stamford Hill, North London.
    I replied; move on, times have changed…

    Any wonder the Metropolitan Police are in special measures.

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    #233591
    james19
    Participant

    Just to add, reported the post, to FB, as it violated their community rules…on
    violence, all be it the state/police, posted by the usual suspects (a retiree cop goon*) to be told it doesn’t violate its rules!?
    *these retiree cop goons, too old for the state pension, old enough for the police pension (55**)are forever on social media, to “support” fellow cop*** goons online.
    Only to be told by fb, it doesn’t violate its rules?!!
    No wonder the Metropolitan Police (and number of other police forces) are in special measures)
    **55 no one talks about golden goodbyes when talking about these ex government employees!

    *** Posted on social media that the conviction of Sarah Everard, murderer by Metropolitan Police Officer, PC Wayne Couzens, wasn’t a police officer? Whose nickname, by colleges, fellow Metropolitan police officers, was THE RAPIST.

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    #237079
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    “the self-interest of all sides should prevent the crisis over Iran turning into a shooting war – but that does not mean it will not happen.”

    As the World Fixates on Ukraine, Another War is Brewing in the Middle East

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