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Even if Biden becomes president, the Democratic Party does not have a majority in the Senate. Anything Biden proposes will be opposed by the Republicans…
Well, Trump has out performed the polls again.
As some have pointed out, even if Biden edges it, he’s going to spend four years pandering to the Trump base. Millions have voted for Trump despite knowing exactly what he is, or because. That’s where we start: and then there is the clear racialisation of the vote…
The 2020 presidential election had the highest turnout rate in 120 years
At 66.9%, the turnout rate of the voting-eligible population was the highest since 1900.
Tues 10th is the the deadline for mail-in votes for Alaska and Nevada and the 12th for North Carolina
There has also been some interesting ballot proposition results
Another indication of the poll turn out and remember it is not all over yet
Biden’s current tally of 69,759,833 surpasses the 69,498,516 amassed by Barack Obama in 2008, the previous record.
The total is already more than 3.9 million higher than the number of votes secured by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she won the popular vote but lost the presidency to Donald Trump.
Trump’s total so far – 67,160,663 – is also more than he polled in 2016, and more than Obama polled in 2012.
It places Trump third on the all-time list.
I suppose that these figures are somewhat influenced by the increase in the US population.
Another observation i would put out there.
Our fellow-workers are prepared to risk Covid-19 than risk their jobs and Trump’s open the economy is resonating with them
One more observation
Republicans hold the Senate so the likely president Biden will be impotent…and come the 2022 mid-terms, the Democratic Party loses the House of Representatives. Biden is a one-term president with Republicans winning in 2024.
And for the liberal progressives, none of their hopes of pushing Biden left will materialise. To appeal to the Republican voters, the Democratic Party will in fact shift to the right.
Biden will blame the Republican block for no substantial reforms. A few cosmetic changes such as re-joining Paris but no green policy of substance.
AJ – Biden is a one-term president
To be fair Alan, at 78 later this month, that might not be his biggest concern, even if he gets to that point, 👿 👿
In Pennsylvania and Michigan Trump supporters demand stop the counting…in Arizona they demand continue the count…guess where they are trailing…
AJ – Biden is a one-term president
To be fair Alan, at 78 later this month, that might not be his biggest concern, even if he gets to that point, 👿 👿
His running mate though, is a tough cookie and she could pick up the presidency if he has a fatal medical emergency.
But in 2024 the Democrats with the Senate blocking all its reforms and a Republican-biased SCOTUS, except for limited presidential executive orders – who is going to be blamed for little progress and all the pain…the Republicans or the buck stops here at the Oval Office. I speculate that the blame will be on the Democratic Party for false promises and Kamala Harris won’t be able to shake off her responsibility as the VP
Once again the election shows that Sanders was the best choice to run against Trump as moderate Democrats cannot pick up moderate Republican votes.
My question is …What will those left progressives do when they have a lame duck president unable to move policies to the left … even if he had the will to do so which he hasn’t got since now he has to compromise and make concessions with individual Republican senators to get anything passed.
It is going to be Trump-lite without the big ego
It is going to be Trump-lite without the big ego.
That is what is was always going to be. What difference would any of them make?
Sanders would have been slaughtered and he knew it, which is why he caved in to Biden..
Sanders would have been slaughtered and he knew it, which is why he caved in to Biden.
That is not how i read it. Sanders was in a far better position than Biden to defeat Trump. He may have alienated the hard-core Trumpeteers with his “socialism” but they were not amenable to any influence, anyways. Those hurting economically would have come on board with Sanders for the M4A and bail-outs for workers, not the corporations.
Sanders was not part of the Nafta or Chinese free trade deals and was a vigorous opponent to them. Trump could not use that against Sanders in the rust belt that saw jobs out-shored.
Nor could there be any questions over Sanders on his ethics or sincerity. He had no Hunter Biden latching on the name.
Surprisingly along the Mexico border Trump out-voted Biden in many places. Sanders had a much stronger Hispanic base than Biden.
Sanders was not seen as a part of the Wall St/Washington establishment and many pro-Trump votes were for that exact reason…he was seen as an outsider…same as Sanders would have been.
What defeated Sanders was the bias of the DNC leadership and their complicit media.
They say Sanders sympathies with Cuba and Venezuela would have lost him the Florida vote…in the end Biden lost that too.
Sanders caved in because like all liberals he was subject to the lesser evil option…better Biden than Trump.
What is interesting is will President Biden reward Sanders with an important position in his cabinet or not. I doubt Wall St will approve of Sanders being appointed Labor Secretary, the post Sanders is angling for.
We can forget all about the “radical” Justice Democrats…they now have no leverage whatsoever…
It is the Republicans like Mitt Romney who hold it and the DNC will ensure that it is those former Republicans already tipped for positions in the Biden administration will get those appointments.
How this all pans out for the rest of the planet, is exactly what you say, Matt, what difference would any of them make.
I was just about to say the same as Matt that, if Sanders had been the Democrat candidate, the result would have been even worse for them that it has been but he beat me to it.
It would have been another Corbyn-like suicide mission with the same outcome. I don’t know why you seem to share the leftist illusion on this — that left or left-leaning parties (if the Democrats can be called that) lose because their programme was not radical enough.
What swung the election (slightly) in favour of the Democrats was the suburban vote, resulting from a demographic change as more and more people move to these areas and tend to want a “normal” capitalism that we have in Europe. Which is why there will never be another Trump. The demographic basis for “Trumpism”is declining all the time. And why, incidentally, he would never have been able to sustain a dictatorship (not of course that this was ever his intention).
Even so he nearly pulled it off and probably would have done had it not been for the coronavirus crisis and him playing the fool about it.
The Democrats won the presidency but that’s about all. They didn’t win control of the Senate and I think they even lost seats in the House of Representatives. What will “progressives” and “Left Democrats” do? Stay in the Democratic Party of course and continue to support this party of capitalism.
As we are only speculating about Sanders, Matt and ALB may be right. I don’t believe so.
Equating Corbyn in a British post-Brexit atmosphere with Sanders is apples and oranges. It was their dithering over Brexit that did the Labour Party in, not Corbyn and the smears against him.
If polls are to be trusted (and i am sure many now doubt that they can) in a hypothetical race between them, done both in 2016 and 2020 Sanders consistently out-performed Trump in almost all the different polls.
In 2016 many Sanders voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin voters backed the Vermont senator in the spring and Trump in the fall, according to an analysis of exit polling — well over twice Trump’s total margin of victory in those states, which were critical the Electoral College. Sanders would have won the union vote which went to Trump in all the rust states Trump gained and still holds some of.
But, as i said, its all speculation for you and i and when Biden wins, any post mortem on why he won will paper over all the unwelcome truths that he could only muster luke-warm enthusiasm. Little will be said or explained why Trump retained and increased his total of voters. The professionals Democratic Party-functionaries will pat one another on the backs for winning 2020.
Don’t be sure Trump is finished, the 12th Amendment is in play, if he can make sure that Biden doesn’t get to 270 electoral college votes (by making sure, say, Pennsylvania never gets to certify electors) then the appointment to the VP goes to the Senate, and the President gets elected by the House voting by state (and the GOP controls the majority of state delegations).
The game is afoot.
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