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https://tass.com/world/2065595
The same old. The flip flop cttee at work to keep the war going.
https://tass.com/world/2065227
NATO really preparing for war, says Belarus.
NATO massing on Kaliningrad border. Ukraine calling up two million draftees for 2026.
An American wit said that people care more for their cars than for their children. If someone damages their car they are furious. But if their children are sent to war and killed, not only are they not furious with the government that sent them to war, they become even more militaristic and patriotic.
The tragedy is, that once Europe’s governments attack Russia and Russia responds and soldiers and civilians are killed, those anti-war energies will be converted into mass hatred of Russians – which is what the governments are counting on. Pacifism and whatever awareness there is will, as always, be trampled in the rush to enlist. Only this time, before anyone shoulders a gun, we’ll all be ashes.
” Is it the workers’ fault, or the system’s fault?”
Neither. It just is. If something does persuade them, that will then be how it is too.
I disagree about the French protests. The Frexit party, or whatever it’s called, is riding the wave, not being blindly followed. The anti-war wave in France is genuine working class feeling, just unaware of capitalism being the cause of war.
Mine too. And I know they are all killers, Putin too. I just see the killing being made to continue every day by this shilly-shallying of the American govt. and the deliberate sabotaging of deals by the EU/UK mob. Their “be prepared to lose your children” advice inflicted on us shows their utter contempt and indifference for the proletariat, whose lives they callously destroy across the world every day.
The US will impose maybe this week more sanctions on Russia if Russia does not agree to the Ukraine-Europe-US deal which includes NATO troops going into Ukraine and an Article 5 provision for Kiev.
https://tass.com/world/2059877
How does this tally with the view of others here?
The United States’ real position is with Europe and Kiev. The talks with Russia are a smokescreen and go nowhere, and the fallback position is always with NATO.
The US is still fighting this proxy war and the European continent is to be the testing ground.If one reads Hannah Arendt we see that violent resistence against the Nazis stopped no atrocities. In fact, it invited them. So did sabotage and individual acts. However, what did upset and even render impossible Nazi policy was the mass industrial strike. This took place in Denmark against the seizing of Jews. The Nazis were in the end only able to take a handful of Danish Jews who surrendered themselves. The mass workers’ strike flummoxed the Wehrmacht and it in turn went on strike. The SS troops sent to threaten the Wehrmacht also went on strike. Jew-seizing was stopped. As long as working class action was mass action, it proved stronger than Nazi power and succeeded where violence failed.
https://fee.org/articles/how-denmark-fought-the-nazi-terror/
And chances are it is the government of the state workers inhabit that becomes the foremost oppressor, hunting conscientious objectors, forceable enlistment against our will, silencing anti-war protest, etc. Resistence to the invader will inflame his forces against the workers of the invaded country and bring reprisals.
We must support, for instance, the necessarily violent resistence of the inmates of places like Treblinka, but at the same time NOT support the Allied military powers in their killing of innocent workers for capitalist interests.
Except that Europe will attack Russia because they know that will bring the US, which is a nuclear power, in on their side.
EU suggesting security agreement which is basically NATO’s Article 5, which means Ukraine can strike Russia and, if Russia strikes back, all of the EU states join in militarily.
So this is no different from NATO membership.
Russia will be unable to agree to this, and so will be lambasted again by Washington as the side which refused a peace deal.
The Europeans and UK are winning this as we are led into a wider war.
