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ParticipantLizzie, please know that we stand against all war and nationalism and always have done. Were a member to diverge from this principled stand s/he would be challenged on it and expulsion from the party would follow were such proven.
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ParticipantMore putinist garbage from the troll and now another, which must be trounced. Otherwise newcomers who come here knowing nothing of the SPGB might think we stand for that rubbish.
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ParticipantThe Russian army still flies the Soviet flag alongside the Tsarist one.
The joke of the “communism” that never was has really come home to roost.Thomas_More
ParticipantOf pertinence, given that the bugbear of the Stalinists is “Nazism” round every corner …
At school I had a German teacher who, as a young girl, had been a member of the Nazi Party. She lived in the east of Germany and she told me that when the Russians moved in, she and the others (she was a secretary) in her office merely changed their swastika armbands for red hammer & sickle ones and carried on with business as usual – as members of the Communist Party!
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ParticipantAt least the Trotskyists aren’t taking sides. The Stalinists are outright nationalists (Putinist).
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ParticipantAnd the Jacobins are still and always were Bolshevik heroes.
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ParticipantThe Leninist obsession with “imperialism” ought to make them support Hitler’s plaint too, against the imperialism of Britain’s denying markets to Germany and “stifling” it.
In fact, just as Stalin was completing Russia’s capitalist revolution Hitler was doing the same in Germany – completing a national process begun by the Prussian kings and by Bismarck.
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ParticipantNew bande-dessinee history of the Makhnovshchina available from Editions libertaires.
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ParticipantWhich is understood by us because, unlike the Leninists, we don’t worship Marx as a god nor recite him like a Christian recites psalms.
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ParticipantSince the working class is the last class to be emancipated, how can you have a “workers’ state”?
With the last class emancipated, what class is there to rule or to be ruled?
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Participanthttps://images.app.goo.gl/BbBHfeUyVkwdr1FE8
Putin the Pious.
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Participanthttps://images.app.goo.gl/xkL8rmifZJaBNCj7A
St. Josef Stalin.
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Participant“As police officers stood guard [in May 2018], two Russian Orthodox priests wearing cassocks and holding Bibles climbed out of a vehicle and began sprinkling holy water on the stationary Topol and Yars intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Priests have sanctified S-400 surface-to-air missiles, nuclear submarines, tanks and fighter jets.
Vsevolod Chaplin, an influential priest and former spokesman for the patriarch, told the Vzglyad newspaper that nuclear weapons were the country’s “guardian angels” and necessary to preserve “Orthodox civilization.”
Patriarch Kirill has described the Kremlin’s military campaign in Syria as a “holy war” [Orthodox jihad?], while uniformed clerics embedded with the armed forces are being trained to drive combat vehicles and operate communication equipment.
Russia’s nuclear arsenal also has its own patron saint — St. Seraphim, whose remains were discovered in 1991 in a disused monastery in Sarov, a small town in central Russia that was home to several key nuclear facilities in the Soviet era.
Putin has memorably described Orthodox Christianity and nuclear weapons as “twin elements of Russia’s domestic and foreign security.”
Ideas such as these have been melded into a radical ideology described as “Atomic Orthodoxy” by Yegor Kholmogorov, a nationalist writer. “To remain Orthodox, Russia must be a strong nuclear power, and to remain a strong nuclear power, Russia must be Orthodox,” Kholmogorov wrote.”
(Orthodoxy in Dialogue)
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ParticipantJust a thought here. We know TS idolises Stalin and calls him a great leader of socialism (a contradiction in terms).
However, Putin does not claim to be a socialist at all. The symbols of his state are the Tsarist double eagle (with St. George) and the flag of Imperial Russia.
Putin is openly Orthodox.
If Stalin’s name has again come to the fore, it is as a saint of the Russian Church, in ikons and holding a cross, with angels overhead. Also, St. Seraphim of Sarov, a Russian equivalent to Francis of Assisi, has been pronounced patron saint of nuclear weapons.
Now, if TS is an atheist, and if he respects analytical socialist thought, and claims that that is why he likes Stalin, then these things must be loathed by him. Stalin holding the cross of Christ!
But, on the other hand, if it is human abasement and kowtowing to authority that he ties his Stalinism to, then he will be ok with it.Thomas_More
ParticipantI agree with Alan. It is important NOT to ban TS but to ignore him and resume the thread.
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