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ParticipantRe: Pol Pot, Mao, etc. The Taipings were similar in their lethality. Mixing a semi-Christian fanaticism with their peasant ardour and the cult-like hero-worship we see in Maoist sects, they executed homosexuals and other minorities and deified their leaders.
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ParticipantMovimiento, do the Trotskyists also espouse “national liberation.”
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ParticipantWell said, Alan. Chinese Leninists are full of “national liberation”, unless you are Formosan, Vietnamese, Tibetan, Uighur, etc. That’s why they supported Pol Pot (liberate people from life!) Idi Amin, and, finally Nixon and Thatcher.
I cannot recommend enough the superb book, A TRAGIC LIBERATION, whose author I will give here in a moment.Thomas_More
ParticipantWell said, Bijou. Could it be that TS is … a coward!?
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ParticipantLenin didn’t give a fig about his “national liberation” balderdash unless it suited him and the “Communist” Party.
He sent Trotsky to butcher the Ukrainian peasantry and the Makhnovists, even though it was Makhno who had crushed the Whites and had saved Moscow.
Lenin also sent his Red Army thugs to destroy the democratic Menshevik govt in Georgia and the Siberian Makhnovist soviets.Thomas_More
ParticipantSo, without necessity, he’s going to nuke us, the populations of the West?
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ParticipantBosnia/Srpska conflict close to flaring up again (Aljazeera).
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Participant60% of Japan’s military supplies came from the USA before America entered WW2, and while Japan was attacking China. Germany supplied China against its ally Japan, while Americans privately helped Chiang via the Burma airlift.
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ParticipantHitler’s stand was also anti-imperialist. Like Putin, he proclaimed “Our patience is at an end”, referring to the stifling of Germany by the colonial powers Britain and France and the exclusion of Germany from markets.
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ParticipantPutin’s paean to Imperial Russia is anti-imperialist? I think I hear Catherine the Great laughing.
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ParticipantWeren’t the Khmer Rouge “anti-imperialist”?
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ParticipantIn fact, in France the peasantry was mostly royalist. It was the nascent urban working class of the towns who joined the bourgeoisie and became its force.
Of course, a section of the bourgeoisie of France had married into the aristocracy and been ennobled. They emigrated. Sade refers to them as the upstarts ennobled since Louis XIV, whom they paid for titles. They were called the noblesse de robe.-
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Participant“The Chinese Stalinists led by Mao Zedong (Mao Tse-tung) developed a particularly demented version of Stalinist doublespeak. “Capitalism” ceased to mean a concrete form of property relations; “following the capitalist road” became an epithet to be thrown at Mao’s opponents in the bureaucracy. Students were hailed as “proletarian revolutionaries” while being cynically mobilized to break workers strikes during the intrabureaucratic war known as the “Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution.” In Mao-speak, the struggle against supposed “Soviet social-imperialism” justified China’s rapprochement with the real American imperialists at the height of their dirty, losing war against the Vietnamese Revolution.
The bureaucrats who rule in the Forbidden City continue to call themselves “Communists” as they scramble to enrich themselves and their progeny and seek to become part of a new class of capitalist exploiters on the Chinese mainland.” (Spartacist, no. 53, Summer 1997).Thomas_More
ParticipantThe Trotskyist view:
Nato is no answer as Putin threatens deadly escalation in Ukraine war
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