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ParticipantWe measure significance according to what impacts our own existence and the things we care about. It is subjective.
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ParticipantTrue Imperialist, you still watching those old war movies with Nazi baddies vs Soviet heroes? Tiresome. Change the record. We’ve had page after page here of your repetitiveness. You have nothing to tell us, yet you keep on doing so.
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ParticipantThe Guardian ran a story earlier this year that the Queen had died. Oh wait! That was in The Guardian.
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ParticipantTalking Pictures to show several Stan and Ollie films over xmas, i’ve been told. Hog Wild was just shown.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkZvopfW85Q
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ParticipantAt university the leftist student union not only refused to print my notices advertising local SPGB meetings; it also trashed my socialist article on the 1989 Peking crackdown.
Those left-wingers have ended up as stockbrokers in the City!Finally I managed to get my SPGB pieces published in the university chaplain’s Anglican newsletter!
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Participanthttps://images.app.goo.gl/RkcEFRwRsKmPpVPq8
Merry-go-round.
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ParticipantRight-wing or left-wing capitalists. We’ve lived under both and there’s no real difference.
Leftism just diverts people, or confuses them, squanders their energies which would be best served in promoting real socialism.Thomas_More
Participant” Get involved with people who share similar base belief systems like getting rid of Capitalism ”
Except they are not for getting rid of capitalism, but for reforms within it. And they’ve been reforming for over a century and the problems are still here.
Left capitalism will become rightist capitalism, then back again, and back again, as the repetitive cycle of boom and slump continues. And capitalism can’t function any other way, as Robbo has said.
Politicians don’t control it. It controls them.
Oscar Wilde was correct: the worst boss is a kind boss.Your “ideological war” isn’t going to achieve anything. But intensifying misery and global devastation and climate change just might.
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ParticipantThey would soon eat their slogans if they were made to live there.
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ParticipantIn the Korean War, captured North Koreans and Chinese soldiers often had themselves tattooed with anti-Mao and anti-Kim slogans, so the U.N. forces would be obliged to let them stay in the south and not be handed back.
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ParticipantThey’ve been Maoist tyrants all along.
I think Mao gave North Korea to Kim Il-sung as a region where he could play a Little Maolet, as there was no job for him available in China.Thomas_More
Participant“While like you, I’d prefer a clean break from Capitalism there just isn’t enough support to make that happen.”
And people saying just that ensures there never will be.
” many on the left who are Socialists and supported the historical Labour party via Social Democracy/Democratic Socialism have been let down.”
They should look us up.
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Participant“Thought was discovered not to be passive as the materialists had claimed, but active. ‘It is the whole man who thinks,” says Marx. Thought is a function of living, it comes into existence by doing something, it manifests itself in action. The existence of social institutions generates certain human needs, the effort aroused to satisfy these needs produces an altered form of consciousness; there is a conflict between the mind of man, expressed in action, and the opposed conditions. Out of the contest ensue changed conditions and a different consciousness expressing itself in further action.” (WS July-August 1951).”
I agree with that 100%.
““Marx refused to divide social experience into two mutually exclusive compartments and classify one, the external world, “cause,” and the other, consciousness, “effect.” On the contrary he showed that social change resulted from the interactions of nature, society and human intelligence. That the conventionally accepted “effect,” consciousness, was itself as much a cause as the laws of nature and society, and that vice versa, the assigned causes were in turn effects.” (WS March-April 1950).”
I go along with that too. Human will (consciousness) is both an effect and a following cause. Thoughts and feelings are both results, but also doers and causers. This is what I mean by chain of causation, not only the factors external to us.
I have never denied Will itself. If my language is archaic, it is because I am versed in it, from the writings of the Encyclopedistes. So we have been at cross purposes.
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ParticipantThe Labour Party, from its formation in 1906, did socialism a serious disservice, by seducing the workers away from it. We already existed, from 1904, for real socialism, but Labour was formed to compromise with the capitalists and begin an endlessly futile path of reforms.
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