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Participant“You’re so impatient. Unlike you, the Russians are in no hurry. Their aim is to demilitarize Ukraine. To grind their troops to fertilizer. The Ukrainians are obliging by sending more and more reserves into the meatgrinder.”
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Big deal. And so what if the repugnant capitalist regime of Putin manages to hang on to its imperialist gains in Crimea and the Donbas in its war against the equally repugnant capitalist regime of Zelensky? The victor will be Russian capitalism. The losers as always in any capitalist war will be the Russian (and Ukrainian) workers. I bet the thought of that must be working you up into a state of quivering orgiastic anticipation: Team Putin and his fellow capitalist cronies enlarging the surface area of Glorious Mother Russia.
Meanwhile to relish in the thought of fellow workers being reduced to “fertilizer” is frankly sick. This is the language of those who wished for the “final solution” in Nazi Germany. Disgusting.
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ParticipantJust as Ukraine has its Nazi supporters in this capitalist conflict so too has Russia. An interesting youtube video
December 29, 2022 at 5:38 am in reply to: Billionaire complaining about people complaining they are poor #238732robbo203
Participant“Bezos is one of a number of the super-rich that has faced criticism in light of their growing wealth — and as stated, COVID-19 didn’t do much to quell the financial growth of these moguls. If anything, most reports suggest that the rich have just gotten richer, and the poor have just gotten poorer.
Even Microsoft founder Bill Gates, himself one of the longtime richest people in the world, has weighed in on whether people should be able to accumulate this type of wealth. “For the first time in my life, people are saying, ‘Okay, should you have billionaires?'” Gates told Forbes. “If you really implemented something like that, the amount you would gain would be much less than the amount you would lose.”
The issue of extraordinary wealth remains mired in controversy. However, financial indicators point to the vast accumulation of riches continuing, and research shows that the era of the world’s first trillionaire may only be a few years away. ”
https://theweek.com/finance/1019328/the-rise-of-the-worlds-first-trillionaire
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ParticipantA curious item from The Independent on Dmitry Medvedev.
“Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev has predicted war between Germany and France next year and a civil war in the United States that would lead to Elon Musk becoming president.
In his list of predictions for 2023, published on his personal Telegram and Twitter accounts, he also foresaw Britain rejoining the EU, which would in turn collapse.”
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Participant“The Putin capitalist regime’s support for Far-right and even fascist political organisations”
Fake news.
_________________________LOL. Anything that contradicts your fervent support of the far-right capitalist regime of Putin and his capitalist cronies is “fake news” by your reckoning, Mr Putin bootlicker.
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ParticipantThe Putin capitalist regime’s support for Far-right and even fascist political organisations
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Participant“Rubbish, being cowed plays into the Zio-Nazis hands. The only message they understand is violence. Soon the Palestinians will have drones. Lots of drones. A cheap airforce denied all sych previous neo-colonialist movements. The Israelis won’t sleep soundly in their beds anymore. Good, they shouldn’t.”
_____________________________________This idiot thinks the way forward is for Palestinian workers to equip themselves with drones and take on the most powerful military force in that part of the world in their quest to form a new capitalist state. The stupidity – and inhumanity – of nationalism knows no bounds it seems. Expect the Israeli regime to step up its oppression by several notches. Expect the Israeli right-wing to gain yet more political strength and to drown out any dissenting opinion at the polls. Expect thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of Palestinian workers to lose their lives as the Israeli military launches a massive military response in retaliation. It’s not as if we haven’t been here before.
Not that a life of a Palestinian worker counts for much in the minds of our bourgeois nationalists of which TS is a prime example. Real workers don’t matter a toss to him, everything has to be sacrificed on the altar of an abstract ideal called “national liberation”. What is that going to achieve anyway? Palestinian workers should be forging ties with Israeli workers just as Ukrainian workers should be forging ties with Russian workers in opposition to the barbarism and inhumanity of capitalist nationalism and its warmongers.
As the Communist Manifesto pointed out, the workers “have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got.”
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Participant“Really? So violence is never justified? How are the Palestinians supposed to free themselves then in the face of Zionist white supremacist genocide?”
_______________________________________________More pearls of wisdom from our armchair military strategist too busy urging other workers to go out and lay down their lives for Putin’s capitalist regime than to bother volunteering himself for military duties in Ukraine.
As for Palestinian workers, are you serious? Militarily taking on the might of the Israeli state in a war? That would be the shortest suicide note in history. But then again I guess you don’t really care about the lives of Palestinian workers lost or for that matter the lives of Russian workers lost in the dumb cause of capitalist nationalism that you so eagerly embrace.
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Participant“It was not hard to predict, as we did over the months, that sooner or later Russia would resort to U.S.-U.K.-Israeli tactics: Quickly destroy everything that sustains a viable society. So they are now doing, arousing justified horror among decent people — joined by those who implement or justify these tactics with the “right agency”: us. The strategic incentive is clear enough, especially after Russia’s battlefield setbacks: Destroy the economy and the will to resist. All familiar to us.”
Both sides have committed war crimes in this capitalist conflict. We should not forget Ukrainian forces shelling of Donbas prior to the Russian invasion. This is what war does to people; it brutalises them. You dehumanize the other side and invent any old excuse for mass murder – like wanting to “denazify” them or whatever.
Ultimately, you cannot separate the means and the ends. If you employ oppressive methods to achieve your goal you will ensure that the goal that you achieve will be oppressive
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Participant“I’m not defending anybody. I’m defending the truth”
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The truth is that war brutalises anyone and everyone who engages in it. Both the Russian and Ukrainian regimes are committing crimes against humanity while blaming the other side for doing just that. They are as bad as each other. To hell with both of them!
Whatever either side may say about it to justify the killing of workers on the other side, this is just a capitalist war being waged for the usual sordid capitalist reasons – resources, markets, sphere or influence, and so on. The nation-state itself is the capitalist political unit par excellance and the issue of sovereignty – whether or not, for example, the Donbas has the “right” to secede – presupposes a capitalist mindset and is a purely capitalist issue about which socialists have no interest whatsoever in taking sides
The sooner Russian and Ukrainian workers abandon this senseless slaughter being carried out for the benefit of their respective masters, the better.
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ParticipantSome interesting links relating to Putin’s bogus claim about wanting to “denazify” Ukraine. (Russia and Ukraine are remarkably similar in both being repressive right-wing oligarchies but neither would qualify as “Nazi regimes” in any meaningful sense of the term – although of course there are self-identifying Nazis living in living in both countries as well as elsewhere in the world )
https://unherd.com/2022/06/the-truth-about-ukraines-nazi-militias/
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Participant“Putin Doesn’t Combat Nazism, He Cultivates It”
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ParticipantHow the Putin regime helped the Far Right in Germany. Putin’s claim to want to denazify Ukraine is about as credible as Hitler’s claim to be a socialist
https://theconversation.com/how-russians-have-helped-fuel-the-rise-of-germanys-far-right-105551
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ParticipantPutin’s fascists
Will TS now be urging us to wage war against Russia in order to “denazify” it?
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Participant“there has been no mention from Moscow that their intention is to remove the illegitimate government.”
Shall I say it more slowly so you can understand child? D-e-N-a-z-i-f-c-a-t-i-o-n.
______________________________Sigh. Here we go on. More drivel from our resident bore and Putin bootlicker.
Why is the Ukrainian regime considered to be a “Nazi regime” but not the Russian regime when they are both so remarkably similar in practice and outlook – i.e repressive, right-wing oligarchies that muzzle their opponents, restrict free speech and pretend to be democracies
How does it make sense for one “Nazi” regime to try to de-Nazify another?
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