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ParticipantThe ‘only game’ will come to an end – along with civilisation, as a result of either nuclear annihilation or a natural/climate catastrophe!
In the meantime keep sucking on your dream pipe, Trev!
___________________________Then you might just as well be a socialist as you’ve got nothing to lose. As individuals, there is only so much we can each do. However infinitesimally small one´s contribution, the world is a better place for having one more socialist and a worse place for having one more supporter of capitalism spouting its rancid ideology of nationalism or bending the knee to royalty. Or whatever.
I can never quite understand the mentality of religious type believers in the inevitability of the Coming Apocalypse such as yourself. If you are so cynical about the prospects of socialism, what precisely are you doing here? It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy you are engaging in and such negativity is not good for your health.
I would far sooner aspire to a better society even if it is unlikely to come in my lifetime
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ParticipantSpot the difference. Well, there isn’t much. Western regimes like the US treat their dissidents in much the same way as the Russian regime does if this report is to be believed…
I came across this from a site called “legitgov”….
3 St. Louis residents indicted on charges of spreading ‘disinformation,’ promoting pro-Russian ‘propaganda,’ and ‘sowing discord’ | 20 April 2023 | A federal grand jury has charged three St. Louis residents with illegally pushing pro-Russian “propaganda” and “misinformation” about Ukraine and sowing discord across Missouri, Georgia and Florida through the African People’s Socialist Party. The indictment alleges that African People’s Socialist Party Chairman Omali Yesh-tela and members Penny Joanne Hess and Jesse Nevel acted as illegal agents of the Russian government without notifying the U.S. attorney general. They each face up to 10 years in prison for that charge. They also face up to five years in prison for conspiring to have U.S. citizens act as illegal agents. The indictment alleges Russian national Aleksandr Viktorovich Ionov founded the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia, a Moscow-based organization run by the Russian government, to promote pro-Russian “propaganda” and create influence campaigns among political groups across the country, including the African People’s Socialist Party… It says that Ionov would appear on video calls hosted by the party in which he likened support to Ukraine to supporting Nazis [which is EXACTLY the case] and that Yesh-tela made statements supporting Russia.”
For comparison here is what the Russian regime does…
“Then on Monday, opposition politician Vladimir Kara-Murza was jailed for treason and spreading “false information” about Russia’s war in Ukraine. His 25-year sentence was three times longer than any previously imposed for speaking out against the Russian invasion.”
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ParticipantI dunno but this strikes me as quite a disturbing development. If Ukraine is allowed to join NATO then does that not represent a greenlight for NATO troops to officially put boots on the ground (as I understand they would be obliged to according to the agreement on mutual defense)? If that happens then NATO and Russian forces would be officially fighting each other. The obvious concern is that this could escalate the prospect of nuclear exchanges. Then everybody is stuffed
I thought, under NATO rules, membership is not allowed if the applying country is in a state of civil war. Does anybody know any more about this?
“NATO membership for Ukraine will be “high on the agenda” at alliance’s summit in July, Stoltenberg says”
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-04-20-23/index.html
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ParticipantChina´s role in bringing about a reconciliation between Iran and Saudi Arabia. What could it mean for the future of global geopolitics?
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ParticipantMusk on the risk AI poses to civilization
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Participant“Please let TS come back – if only to liven up this forum once again!”
___________________________On the contrary, it would make debate here tediously boring and offputting to most users. You might enjoy trollish at the expense of the SPGB but the rest of us don’t. Its time to draw the line and move on
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ParticipantPaddy might find this useful for his forthcoming talk
“Google and Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai said “every product of every company” will be impacted by the quick development of AI, warning that society needs to prepare for technologies like the ones it’s already launched.”
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ParticipantRichard Wolfe on the emerging new world economy. Makes some useful as well as some questionable points
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ParticipantA topic to express members’ thoughts on whether or not we are to expect militarily engineered annihilation before long.
=======================Christ, I hope not. I’ve got things to do still and places to visit.
All the more reason to vehemently oppose the putrid reactionary and divisive ideology of nationalism wherever it rears its ugly head. We, socialists, have not been very successful in advancing the cause of a sane society (as one nationalist troll, recently departed from this forum, delighted in pointing out). But at the end of the day, it is the only cause that makes any sense in a world gone mad. It is the only cause that will stop the warmongers in their tracks. Had we but the numbers to go with the intent.
There are some people on the same wavelength as us – the Leftcoms and some anarchists. However, most of the Left has either sold its soul to the devil and voiced its support either for Russian capitalism (the Stalinoids and their ilk) or else Ukrainian capitalism and by extension Western imperialism (people like Anti-capitalist Resistance, for example).
It is a truly pitiful state of affairs and worrying too. Nationalism is rampant everywhere…
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ParticipantQuite an interesting breakdown of the global geopolitical scene (and terminology) though the author seems to be more biased in favour of the BRICS imperialist bloc than the G7 imperialist bloc….
https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/views/views/g7-and-brics-in-the-emerging-world-order-1657983387
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ParticipantThanks to this obscene inter-capitalist war, military spending has reached an all-time high. More waste to add to the waste of destroyed lives and destroyed infrastructure…
“After Russia invaded Ukraine, several European countries announced increases to coming military budgets. The war is likely to accelerate an ongoing upward trend in global military spending; in April, SIPRI estimated global military spending to reach $2.1 trillion in 2021, an all-time high.”
https://www.sipri.org/events/2022/SSC22-military-spending-ukraine
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ParticipantWhy is this individual still posting here? I thought his account had been suspended because of his repeated trolling
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ParticipantBecause I contend that the so-called absolutely reprehensible behaviour of TS is essentially no different to the abuse levelled against her by others on this forum.
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Yes, but the difference is that while you have no difficulty in pompously condemning the behaviour of socialists on this forum you feel quite at ease condoning the behaviour and taking the side, of this troll. Then you have the nerve to call us “hypocrites”! For what? For wanting to ensure that discussion on this forum is carried on in the manner and for the purpose intended – political debate not exchanging personal insults. Are you telling me you have some problem with this?
At any rate since the forum seems to temporarily lack a moderator, something needs to be done to stop this rot. It is not going to just disappear of its own accord
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ParticipantAnd your response is to censor someone whose views you don’t like which in itself is a complete abuse of the democratic principle.
Fucking hypocrites!
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What absolute balderdash!
You are obviously clueless about what the purpose of a democratic forum is. It does not exist for the purpose of freely exchanging degrading personal insults. It exists for the purpose of debating political ideas. The rules clearly state no trolling is allowed. That is a very reasonable stipulation. It was put there for a purpose and in joining this forum you agreed to abide by it. If you do not like it you are welcome to sod off.
From the start, this individual – TS – has shown himself to be an inveterate troll. His presence here has been malevolent and disruptive in the extreme. I would have no objection to him promoting his pro-Russian capitalist viewpoint in a way that did not constantly insult other users of this forum. But sadly that has not been the case.
You have the nerve to call others here hypocrites but I cannot help but notice your complete silence when it comes to rebuking TS for his absolutely reprehensible behaviour. Why is that Lissie45?
Enough is enough. The whole atmosphere of this forum has been spoilt by the actions of this individual – TS. It is precisely for sake of democratic principles that something now needs to be done about this….
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Participant“Poland’s government said Saturday that it has decided to temporarily prohibit grain and other food imports from Ukraine as it seeks to soothe the rising anger of Polish farmers, who say they are losing huge amounts of money to a glut of Ukrainian grain on the market.”
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