Ozymandias
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You are trying to put words into my mouth. I have very little faith in workers whether they are university educated or not. I have this lack of faith because we are still living in Capitalism in 2013. Because workers still by and large fail to stand by one another. Because certain members of my class continue to police/intimidate, torture, maim and kill their fellow humans/workers/proletarians/99%/wage slaves in defence of our masters. Because my class continues to endorse Capitalism in elections and generally supports Capitalism whilst simultaneously having little or no idea what it is. The global Working class. The most intelligent and dynamic class in history. Best Educated? Best schooled more like. Whether in primary, secondary or tertiary education. The fruits of this education can be seen clearly on Channel 4's "Gogglebox". Have you watched this? It is like a sort of visual barometer of common attitudes and beliefs within a broad cross section of the "general public" (the term most in line with how the masters would like us to describe ourselves.) What comes across through the prism of a socialist lens (apart from the great humour) is the depressing ignorance, apathy and incomprehension of those involved whether they are the posh ones who are always pissed, the black ones who are always eating, the gay ones who are always camping it up or the old ones who never stop bickering! They are all in it together. Like one big happy family. Most travelled? According to this article… http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1920287 60% of all Americans do not own a passport and what would the 1.5 Billion illiterate members of our class be doing with air travel when most of them are trying to survive on less than $5 a day?Least racist? I dont know if you read the latest John Pilger article about Aboriginal Apartheid as featured currently on SOYMB? White Australians turn a blind eye to this disgrace because they have benefitted from and sometime actively partaken in this ghettoisation. Don't mention the Australian attitudes to boatloads of desperate fellow workers turning up on Aussie shores. Look at the rise of Golden Dawn and the EDL, the treatment of the Roma people in France and over here. I watched the horrific aerial bombardments of Tamil workers by non Tamil workers in "The Sri Lankan Killing Fields" which was screened on CH4 Sunday night. Wish I hadn't watched it. It was terrifying and utterly horrible. Workers/proletarians are still racist because they continue to need to seek some group to blame their poverty on. This is due to our economic position in society. Why would I think its invalid to replace the term "Working Class" with "Proletariat" or vice versa? I don't treat the Lumpen as a separate class neither do I describe workers who are a bit better off as "Middle Class". I see them as constituent members of differing gradations within our class. Is it only "many" of the so called middle class who are proletarians? I would have thought all of them were insofar as their plight of forever having to prostitute their labour power in exchange for a wage like the lumpenites down the estate.It's not the thieves and drug dealing element of our class that I'm concerned with but rather the thieves and drug dealers of the Capitalist class. I don't necessarily view the lumpen element as being solely derived from the lowest earning section of our class. I regard anyone in the employ of the military or the police as being honorary lumpeners because they are not involved in direct production or wealth creation but are murderous and violent guardians of private property. Their minds are lumpen because they support Capitalism so much that they are willing to attack their fellow slaves or even give up their lives in defence of it. The Junkies, Chavs and single mothers in Jeremy Kyle land might become some of the most passionate class warriors in the end when they are flung into the maelstrom. They will have most to gain from the hurly burly of revolution.It's the workers involved in the "military industrial complex" who we need to convince the most. Nationalism and patriotism have warped their minds to the extent that they totally believe in the lie they are defending. I don't know why this has always worried me but it has. There it is. I just fear that revolution could create tumult within our class as well as enlightenment. It's the workers all over the world with their fingers on triggers and buttons that will be crucial lynchpins of a global tinderbox of change.
"The reality is we have more in common with the people we're bombing than the people we're bombing them for." This is my favourite quote from yesterday's Guardian article.And then there's this… "We could use the money accumulated by those who have too much, not normal people with a couple of cars, giant corporations, to fund a fairer society." I still forgive him though. God I hope he reads that Standard. Or will his Messiah Complex get in the way of being able to construe our message even if he does read it?
Yes I know all this mate but what of the problem of a "reactionary lumpenproletariat"? You don't think this could pose a grave danger at all? I just think the whole thing could be fraught with danger. As you have probably deduced I have very little faith in the working class. Very little faith indeed.
What I fear is the possibility of sabotage from crazed and fanatic pro-slavery members of the working class. I just cannot imagine some of the idiot bastards in the police or armed forces ever becoming Socialists. I detest these morons. And I'm not only talking about the "Western Democracies". This could be a problem in every country in the world. Could there be a core of these workers so brainwashed by the masters that they could upset the whole apple cart?When I read that the US Military have (for example) been experimenting with the very fabric of space time by trying to create mini time loops within tiny black holes, utilising "Remote Viewers" and spending millions on para-normal research whilst developing hideous microwave death-ray weapons I just fear what lengths these bastards would go to to maintain Capitalism. And no I didn't get any of this from conspiracy theories. This shit is real and it is happening. What could our masters have up their sleeves in store for us should their hegemony be threatened in a unique way which has never before presented itself in history? How many slavish proles would be happy to do their bidding to the last? All you need is a hardcore of crazed saboteurs and we could go up in smoke. I guess you could say the corollary to what I'm saying is just to shut up shop and give up now. But I'm not saying that. This problem genuinely worries me. I just seek reassurance. We have rabid religious fundamentalists, cults, elite military squadrons, triple agents…you name it. I hope I'm so wrong here but I just think that with all of these insane variables concretely in place in a society where 20% of humans are completely illiterate how likely is it that a smooth transition to Socialism could ever be achieved? Please explain why I'm talking shite and how my fears are groundless.
You can't tell me that every last cretin working in the armed forces or police force of every nation on earth will join the class war on the Socialist side.
Fuckin right! So what if he's a flamboyant blowhard. Have we ever heard opinions like his expressed in such an earnest way on telly ever before? I can see the boat coasting away whilst party dithers and debates. Not really the fault of the WSM being so tiny but rather individual egos.
Hi Janet. Yes I may very well attend Summer School next year. I try to bum up the party at every opportunity. I even tried to introduce the SPGB/WSM on the old TZM global forum and ended up getting a long reply from Peter Joseph himself. He missed my point completely I might add. As far as I'm concerned the party is the only standard bearer of real Socialism in the whole world. It is the only Socialist Party on earth. As an edifice it is without blemish. It's just the ego's of individual members that have got me down in the past. I guess that happens everywhere though!
Mate I think you have to take into consideration maybe the mature age of most members and the attendant unfamiliarity with Internet technology as well as the small membership of the WSM which I imagine must be only about 500 worldwide. I hope it's more. Ironic that I should bemoan this when both of us are ex members. I should really get my finger out and rejoin.
Cheers mate. Feel a bit disingenuous coming on here sometimes cos I'm not even a member anymore! I know I am probably more likely to be kicked to death by a donkey than actually get anywhere near Brand at the Clyde Auditorium but I will give it a damn good try. Maybe I will write a good covering letter to add to the pressie I will prepare for him. Maybe instead of a huge emergency pack I should just try to get a Standard into his hands? I will figure it out. I will try my very best to disseminate our unique case in this way. Can you imagine if this guy became a Socialist? I know it's laughable. Unthinkable. Yet stranger things have happened. Mate I see Brand's Newsnight performance as just another of the indices of global cognitive change. First it was TZM then the emergence of Wikileaks followed by the "Arab Spring" and "Occupy" and now this. The counterpoint to all this is the continuing vomit of scandal after scandal. The latest of which is the current situation with the NSA. All of the cornerstones are crumbling at the edges. There are more and more online voices and groups which echo our position without even knowing of our existence (I know I shouldn't say "we" and "ours" when I'm no longer even a member but you get me right?). Semi positive statements even seem to be very gradually emerging from left wing circles. It's the Internet which has brought all of this on. Who knows when the spark might come. I think things could develop very quickly. Fuck knows! I just feel hope and I've felt this way for the past five year…
Instead of writing to him by snail mail why not go see one of his "Messiah Complex" shows? I'm going to see him here in Glasgow on Feb 17th. I'm going to do him an emergency pack. A mix tape, a spare copy of "Socialism or Your Money Back", a bar of tablet and a Standard all wrapped up as a present. Was thinking of doing the same with Peter Joseph when he was in London in the summer but he's a lost cause along with TZM. I am fuckin determined to get this package into Brands hands. A long shot but I might be able to wangle it. Fuck! who knows? Worth a try!
Could the party set up nationwide public meetings organised by every branch? something along the lines of "Was Russell Brand Right?" or "Russell Brand. Prophet or Poseur?" or "The Russell Brand Revolution" or something. I don't think the WSM have missed the boat on anything because this isn't going to go away. Capitalism is only going to get worse and eventually there will be a deafening cacophony of such Brandisms from other partly enlightened "Celebrities" as well as everyone else. This will crescendo into an avalanche.
I just watched it again. Ok at one point he starts going on about reforms but I would say he's 75% there. He just hasn't read a Standard yet. Maybe he never will. Bet all the pseudo Socialists wish they could get their hands on him. Last year I bumped into that arsepiece Billy Bragg on Sauchiehall St. I said "Improve your Standards of Socialism" and gave him an old Standard which happened to be in my bag. It was wasted on the cunt. Wish it had been Brand I had bumped into. Fuck I'd love to meet this guy. So would most members of the SWP though. Would like to think Brand would see through them. There is a stirring going on and it's been bubbling for the past five year now. You can feel it. Brand is voicing it. Ok he's confused but I'm excited.
Just watched this. FUCKIN BRILLIANT! Has to be the most real thing I've seen on telly. Wish to fuck it was me. I applied to get in the audience for the Question Time game show but no such luck!
