L.B. Neill
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TS: “But I thought it was a WW1 “stalemate”? Lol! You bunch of faux Marxists. I thought Marxism was based on materialism. You jokers are idealogues. Evidence goes out the window with you clowns. Russia is winning decisively.”
Enough!
You have belittled. You have engaged in derogatory and violent remarks throughout this debate.
What I do know is that if a person seems to have no empirical ‘verifiable’ facts to back up their position and challenged: they devolve into base and disruptive behaviour. Near fascist actions you might say, they devolve into vitriol and verbal violence as the last line of defense.
My empirical verifiable evidence for this conclusion: most of your above posts.You base your commentary on nothing more than aggression as a signifier of being right.
Settle down and engage in adult debate.Some of us want to debate, put some views across and learn. But you suck the oxygen, like a vacuum bomb, right out of the place… making it awkward for some of us to discuss it without being harassed.
Demonstrate you are not an apex clown of the lower order: debate not degrade!
Your behaviour sounds close to oppressive and more like fascist techniques!Does your behaviour represent Russian aggression and the attitudes toward tensions… perhaps. If your attitude is systemic of what is fueling the war: then it gives us some insight into colonial and imperial causal factors. If you do not want to use verifiable data, then least we can use your cognition as the data in itself.
Take a bloody good look at yourself!
Enough!
Hi twc,
Thank you for this thread.
It seems ‘discernment’ of the material this vast ‘AI data miner’ produces really does need human conscious attention to both process and re-articulate its data into our meaning making practices.
In the mode of production queries you inputted above… I felt that there seemed something ‘afoot’ in the variations of socialist thought.
I wanted so much for it to say: ‘socialist states’ that use money is state capitalism. I wanted it to state a socialist society is yet to come into fruition.
It seems discernment of its output is still required… it is a forward processor and seems less an integrated processor-
I would hope people are encouraged to consider how to use and interrogate its ‘answers’. I consider programmer ‘bias’ may encode the ‘essences’ of their particular agenda in the search results…. lot to consider as a user, never mind the developers and their own observer/developer bias.
I’m curious to research it now, and thanks for the thread,Well said both BD and Robbo.
I may be a post structural thinker. I wear that label. I see TSs statements as projecting fascism onto the other: while engaging in a field of discourse that opens up a new period of fascism.
Russian imperialism is very real (the engine room of any capital class). And it uses the very same arguement and ideology of ‘defending democratic ideals’ whilst using the tools of oppression and legitimising them as said defenders of democracy.
The only sane stance is to express concerns for workers killing workers and point out the the false ideological myth building being used to put a spin on this war.“LB, it´s difficult to know in the case of our resident Putin bootlicker. He claims to be an antifascist but some of the sentiments he expresses have a fascist ring to them. In theory, I guess it is possible for an avowed “anti-fascist” to be a fascist in practice in everything but name…”
I think all the features of it: without the brand fascism on the product description! If it waddles like one it may very well be one.
I think TS gave me his best Dr Evil impression: hahaha… + ha!
Robbo, I think we might be on to something- lets hope he does not ask for one million dollars or we get the laser!
Robbo,
Could it be that a fascist thinker could conflate anti-fascism with fascism!
Its like they redouble the features of fascism onto anti-fascist opponents and thus displace their own discourse of totalitarian constructs and create a false flag, or an ‘enemy’ to reposition their own fascism.
Fascists and their ilk always need a scapegoat- and project their own base desires onto the ‘other’.
Your above post is colourful language, yet it calls this out regarding the said poster.Alas. It seems the way of some.
Workers killing workers seems fine for some, even if it goes against their class interests.
Not sure if TS is an oligarch, hegemony is a funny thing (permission to be oppressed), yet he/she/ver certainly writes in support for a sadistic elite class.
Time out, pause, try not to do any harm to others nor to self.
Breath, in and out.
Do no harm. Do not promote harm
… And exhale!
In the deepest of love: what!, yes in love, do not wish harm.
Too many have died in this war… too many brothers and sisters and vers.Thank you Alan,
It is worth remembering: it is just as nice, just to be nice… even if disagreement ensues.
My, it must take more energy to be nasty… and it is all consuming!
Otherwise it seems we all devolved into the…. :Here is to a better year and civil debate not devolving into ‘mi arse” insults and attacking the person.
Challenge the idea: not the person.Hi TS,
Thank you for your earnest feedback on the point I made.
Regarding the term ‘Russification’, it pertains to Russian conquest and expansion. Generally used for the Czar era of imperialism in historical Russian studies. It can also be applied to later periods of Russian expansion, perhaps even the current temporal period.
I had thought you might offer to challenge or seek to clarify my post, alas… only putdowns.
I do thank you all the same. Interesting term ‘communist adjacent’- next to it and not of it?
Some of my post to you was hyperbole (claims over ‘all’ Russian speaking communities): the use of exaggeration to show how an idea can be used- demonstrating an absurdity in annexing parts of the Ukraine with using that thinking to seize other nations territory … perhaps I could have used a more matter-of-fact point of view.
Be safe“Matilde Kimer, who has reported for Danish television from the front lines of the conflict since the NATO/Kiev aggression began in 2014, revealed last week…”
There, fixed it for you.
Sometimes I wish there was a policy of ethical disclosure about who sponsors a posters post.
Declare your philosophy and its backers.TrueScotsman… I am not sure what to say:many of your posts are so pro- Russification it almost harks back to imperialism under the Czars.
What next: a claim over New York, London or other districts as there is a Russian population speaking in Russian! Linguistic orientated colonial expansion!
I know that might seem laud… but annexing a region with linguistic defenses for doing so seems Machiavellian, and that of old Nick, the last Czar.
Ah! Now that would be the doomsday sayers!
Wishing to bring down a whole world for their own selfish needs!
I had to smile Tom at your reply. Thanks.
Membership is a funny thing and stuffed full of inclusions and exclusions in any structure!
My failures in being a member of any club/group is what defines me: I hear the people on the margins deeper- and echo back.
Stay safe and thanks for the smile that suddenly beamed on my face.
Stay safe,Hi Tom,
Time lag is a funny thing across zones.
Thank you for your lovely words on people of faith who share socialist ideas and its appeal.
You know I once had chats with wez and Matt my Christian faith and my socialist views.
Matt was initially surprised that I was a person of faith…
Often, I believe, faith communities are subjected to far right ideations and ‘red scare’ and abase people who express socialist ideas.
I dream and consciously will for a money-less and socialist society.
I talk often on changing the mode of production, based on the science of antagonistic change agency. There must be a better way: a science of production that meets all and every want and need.
Some socialists might be skeptical of my faith and treat me with caution. Some people of faith do the same about my non-capitalist stance (socialism stance).
I have conflated my faith with socialism, so walk like many others in that position in the shadows of alienation. Twice displaced… but content in it.
I have posted here for some time, and have always been welcome to chat- at times it raises a brow (preconceptions if vitriol will spout allayed in chat! people of everyday desire to change the mode sharing ideas and options)
I know, some in the SP may welcome me, and some may not.
I accept that concern. As I know socialists had and have been treated poorly by fanatical religious-political actors (likely labouring under political interference greater than they think).
You know, I have got to know so many here and and glad to use the term comrade and brother/sister/ and preferred pronouns for personhood.
Be safe, and again, lovely words, thanks.
Interesting point again!
The chain of causation has its ripples.
And those ripples expand ‘yond so many imagined corners.
Capital control will never solve its impacts on society, and it knows that.
Dialogue. Communication and a change in the base can come and alter our direction.
Choice, causality and effect.
I am signing off for the night.
Be safeInterpolation. Althusser explains it as appealing (hailing) to common sense of a person/people it hails to.
When did you first hear it?
Well it made sense to me as I had it in mi head at the time!
BBC you say?
Well, well, maybe before then… all the lads said it was so.
And before the lads?
Dunno, made sense to me all the same!I see that. Causal factor and its impact. It stems with choice… lets hope it is informed choice!
Otherwise I would ban the Brits from driving based on modelling outcomes!
Causal chains and differentiating the signification of an event seem to be contentious still!
If acts go undifferentiated: then we have no clue nor ability to learn from actions.
