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“any socialist content”. happen it were all about socialism. the preconditions for it at any rate. and is workers control, via the free soviets, really of no relevance? are you absolutely sure now? because i thought socialism was all about workers control. i’d say a functioning soviet was a fair bit of common ownership and democratic control. certainly more promising than the NEP.
KAZParticipantthere is a choice at kronstadt. the nep, economic development, a modern capitalist economy, with lenin the sailorkiller, gulag joe and poisoner putin. or democracy. that’s what the 15 points amount to. via workers councils not parliament.
KAZParticipantALB says “the only way forward for Russia…was the development of capitalism”. thing is capitalism needs blood to oil its wheels. in this case sailor blood. “ruthless” is what it takes.
KAZParticipantdid an actual response to ALB but it didn’t take. some sort of negative banter filter. gobshittery it likes, serious response no. maybe have to keep it short.
KAZParticipantoh yeah, did post up that pic. no comments. got a “like”. i can do that on ours. and i can send personal messages like on zoom. good forum ours. and it cost nowt.
KAZParticipantjings. what’s wrong with you? gout playing up again? kiss your good lady, your fine bairns and calm the fuck down.
and, since you said, i had to post the same picture with a call to lady aycogites to revenge the commune. i’ll tell you the response. i imagine they’ll just look at me, kind of what-the-fuckish.
and, no, normally i wouldn’t have done anything of the sort. we’re not a bloke party. you know what bought me here? the response on the transgender thread. no wonder you’re tetchy. just the sort of shit that made me jack it in. it ain’t me and it ain’t you. it’s the party innit.
KAZParticipant“not that funny” for shure. but one would think any attempt at humour would be greatly appreciated, making a break from the self-important pseudo-intellectualism passing into plain bigotry that passes for socialist commentary these days. had an ICCabod at the meeting yesterday. outdid in self-importance and pseudo-intellectualism any SPGBer ever. he needed a visit from a petroleuse.
KAZParticipantCheers. That came up on my laptop but not on my tablet. These things is funny. Looks like a Party member don’t she?
KAZParticipantWell, if you can get there, remember to bring a watering can.
KAZParticipantMarx was never naturalised was he? I think that would disbar him on the nationals. Locals were based on property so maybe for them. Women could vote in locals back in Marx’s time. Don’t tell the wimmin that though. Spoil their stuffragette party.
The thing about censuses (or censi) is that they are linked to nationalism and capitalism. They appear with the centralised state and become increasingly detailed with the rise of capitalism. Is it unreasonable to assume that on the demise of the state and capitalism, the census will vanish?
Proudhon was a knobend.
KAZParticipantI believe the census question is titled “ethnicity” rather than “race”. I thought Ethnicity was a town in America until I drank deep of the waters of tranquility.
Will there be censuses (censi?) under scrotcialism?
KAZParticipantprof! them ain’t gender benders. them is young people. that’s far worse. is there an identity that lets me mouth off about kiddies?
KAZParticipantyes, well, entering into the debate is a step too far. then you got to choose which brand of idpollers to support? old line feminists, who don’t want “blokes” in their precious bogs, or 33rd wavers? two genders, both of whom wear trousers and swear, or 233? i believe, we should all follow the wise words of chairman vic: “it’s no socialism”.
KAZParticipantCheers for that share DJP. I tried to share on the party facebook sites but got the naysay (least I thinks I did). Heard you having a “transgender debate”. That be fun. Ho ho ho.
KAZParticipantNow they seem to be commercialising the knowledge they acquired from us.
“Funny” is a bit of an understatement given the self-evident willingness of these two to be used as paid mouthpieces for the most reactionary elements of the ruling class. At least their message will only get through to those already convinced of the need to soak the poor. Why on earth would you consider them less of enemies than the mugs who go Labour though? Social democracy is the greater enemy
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