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November 5, 2023 at 2:29 pm in reply to: We should correct the party statement on our website #248175KAZParticipant
no (i likes a nice rhetorical statement that really didn’t call for an answer, especially not from a schmoo like me). the attraction of the spugub is its universal and timeless appeal. it’s not supposed to issue statements every time a warlord or plutocrat takes a dump on the workers. bloody hell! you’d be at it all the bleeding time. that’s every trots calling in life innit.
anyway. why do you let these embittered exs on your blatherskittery thing anyhow? first thing the aycog does is chuck em off. “why aincho achieved socialism after 119 years, four months and 29 days?” “fark off mate, you have a go.”
KAZParticipanti tried to use the quote function but the system blocked me. i’m never sure if there’s a malicious member hanging about (traitor! traitor! let’s nail his balls to the wall) or whether it’s just poor quality programming.
anyway, got no beef wiv the spugub gaza statement. corblimey. luvaduck.
KAZParticipantZJW: the ACN is a split from the ACG of some of its most active members. ostensibly on the perennial transgender issue (we weren’t nice enough). but really because those who left have different ideas on how to organise. in my opinion there is no ideological difference.
whee doggy! how you like them apples buddy! yeehaa! (is manky (mock yank talk) any better?)
KAZParticipantcome here looking for the spgb gaza piece. damned if i can find it. wanna pick holes. wanna be smart arse.
KAZParticipantiran-linked sites. it’s still a proxy war. just like in ukraine. the septics are off their noodles on blood and guts but they still have the sense not to engage where they’re going to lose (which is pretty much everywhere).
KAZParticipantby the way, i probably ought to mention that the ACG-CWO alliance wasn’t particularly successful. they did an “intervention” (disrupted a meeting) and tried to poach one of our boys. good job they didn’t try me. i’m anyones for a big sloppy cream slider. however, i feel they may have anticipated that and hidden away the comestibles.
KAZParticipantwould that come by shemail or is there something on here? t’is a terrible format this here. always going to admins who are invariably sleeping. costs a bleeding packet too. acg one’s free. you can “like” a post or a comment just like on facebook. and it’s got built in messaging. i’m on faecesbook as keith scholey so you can contact me there. i’m the one with hedgehogs.
KAZParticipantaye, that i be. your monicker seems vaguely familiar. hello chuckaluck if i knows you (not landlord wiggers shurely?).
anyway. for myself, i’d say socialist consciousness is formed both before and during the revolution. that’s the nature of consciousness. if it’s not formed in the course of experience (struggle as the schmoos say), it’s false consciousness (or summat like).
insurrectionalism is very old hat. pretty much a liberal thing these days. find me a wolfie smith and i’ll find you a bod who salivates over rights and identities and all that gas.
will there be a barney? oh i should think so. them buggers won’t surrender without a fight. should we do weapons training right now in preparation for the glorious battle of tooting bec? pull the other one.
the difference between marxists and anarchists (put the classic in front because everyone’s a wanker now) is not whether we can duke it out with the pigs but whether the pigs (and the grunts and the smarmy suits and the grubby bollock boxes and all the other crap of the modern state) are a suitable means for transforming society.
KAZParticipantnot one we use but one needs to cater to the children and their foibles. dear little things.
KAZParticipanti’ll be at this one. there is a vague invite to the spgb. the comment was “better you goys than idpollers, trenchists or cafflicks.”
KAZParticipantzounds like someone should be appointed Head Inspector of Socialist Standard Covers. on the principle of you complains, you bleeding does it, an application has already been submitted. dragons and the wrong tang. nuh!
KAZParticipantwikipedia has a page entitled “Uyghur genocide” but strangely enough doesn’t list any deaths on “Lists of genocides by death toll”. what a peculiar omission – and quite unique. much as we all hate state capitalism (although china hasn’t been state capitalist since 2004 or so), piggybacking on new cold war propaganda is daft.
i would say that genocide here is applied in the same way that antisemitism is applied to critics of israel.
KAZParticipantabsolutely, ALB. it’s obviously one of those new cold war campaigns. what’s interesting, and overlooked, is the economic aspect. china has just mechanised cotton production in the area, putting vast numbers out of work. no wonder the locals are pissed!
KAZParticipantwe’re getting there old bhoy, we’re getting there. orban and erdogan and trump have got their personality cults, rather more than that boring little suit xi. mass rallies – yanks have always had those, over hear that “door step clapping” is pretty fascistic if you ask me. internment camps – little mex children and immigrants not good enough? single party – they may as well be. single ideology – consumerism is pretty much dominant.
perhaps the comparison is not with the hardcore fascists of yesteryear but with the (de/e)volved red fascism of today. a convergence towards illiberal democracy. preserving the form of democracy, to placate the guardian reading liberal, but in reality sharing many of the characteristics that one would associate with undemocratic regimes.
KAZParticipantcheers for calling me an anarchist by the way. i’m a very bad anarchist. sloppy, lazy and pedantic, i am a natural spugubber. alas there are limits even for supersloth.
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