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Alan Johnson “Are we a land of socially responsible citizens or a nation of grasses?
Police say they have received 194,000 calls “snitching” on people alleged to have broken the coronavirus lockdown”
I don’t think the reports will be about either snitching or social responsibility. I read a report years ago that reckoned that about 90% of reports to the Gestapo during WW2 were escalations of personal feuds and neighbours squabbles and that sorting out all of that made the Gestapo very inefficient.
I can to some extent understand this, cos I’ve got a right twat living over the road from me. He’s a trendy leftie, knit your own sandals, fuckwit with kids who are probably called Laura and Ashley. Pretends he’s so right on, but he’s never had a radical thought in his life. I so far have resisted the temptation to call the old Bill and give him a fright, but that temptation is great.
Marcos – “I grew up with Jesuits, Salesian fathers, De La Salle Brothers and Nuns, from primary to secondary school and they never hit us,”
I take it they weren’t Irish then.
The Tawse was the weapon of choice for teachers in the Tyneside area during my school days. I went to a particularly sadistic and violent catholic Secondary School where teachers would regularly punch pupils in the face, never mind messing about with a belt. If you were being regularly hit with a bit of wood, you knew you were in woodwork, if the teacher was hitting you with a bit of metal, you knew you were in metal work.
We had one teacher whose method of education was to give a lesson for an hour on a Tuesday, with revision tasks for the next lesson on the following Thursday. The Thursday’s one hour session consisted of a half hour exam based on Tuesday’s lesson, a tense 15 minute wait while he marked the test in silence and then the bottom 50% of the class were given the belt. It didn’t matter if you got 99% if you were in the bottom half, six lashes with the belt. What a twat.
Then a priest would come around a tell me Jesus died for my sins. I thought I was hard done to getting the belt for not doing homework, JC was getting put to death for my sins, which at that time consisted of nicking the odd bar of chocolate and some boyish and vague impure thoughts about my mate’s mother.
Dave B
I did this before using similar material from elsewhere ; I have loads of it.
Why can’t you seem to find it?
I’m a bit confused, who is it you mean can’t find material like this?
Dave B
“the leaked 150,000 lockdown deaths estimate by a civil service technical sub committee report looks like it might be real as it has not been fully denied.”
This is the article I believe you are referring to is below, however no mention of a techanical sub-committee report, but plenty of horse shit.
“Fraser Nelson, editor of The Spectator and political columnist for The Telegragh, spoke of the stark 150,000 figure today. He did not reveal his source. He said: ‘Work is being done to add it all up and produce a figure for “avoidable deaths” that could, in the long-term, be caused by lockdown.
‘I’m told the early attempts have produced a figure of 150,000, far greater than those expected to die of Covid. ‘This is, of course, a model… But estimates of lockdown victims are being shared among those in government who worry about the social damage now underway: the domestic violence, the depression, even suicides accompanying the mass bankruptcies.‘ “
So where does this figure come from?
Reluctance of people to go to hospital in the current situation?
Well regardless of lockdown or no lockdown, the CORONAVIRUS CRISIS is likely to be the main reason why people are reluctant to go to hospital, not the lockdown situation, if there was no lockdown, the situation re the virus would be the same.
Similarly, treatments for people with cancers, etc. are not being postoponed because of the lockdown. The reason for the postponments is that hospitals are dealing with Covid 19 victims and that some people are even more vulnerable because of that, that is why medical interventions are being postponed. Regardless of lockdown those vulnerabilities would still remain.
So does the author seriously expect that deaths through suicide, domestic violence or depression will add up to 150,000. That would be roughly a third of the military deaths in the UK during WW2? I have had a quick look at the suicide rate between 1939 and 1945, and 50,000 a year did not seem to pop up.
Could it be that the writers of the Torygraph and the Spectacularly Boring are making the case for an end to lockdown because working class lives matter less than profit?
Perhaps they are worried that their profit margins are being eaten into because of a standstill in the exploitation of labour. Maybe they’re worried that the fact that lots of people in what we would describe as pointless jobs (Accoutnants, Management Consultants, Commodity Brokers, etc.) are not going to work and nobody is missing them, might make them think that the cat is out of the bag.
Whatever the reasoning of the Tory Press, you can be sure it isn’t based on the interests of working people.
So if it isn’t based on working class interest, I don’t think it is the purpose of the SPGB to be propagating the ideological and economic interests of the ruling class!
The Saudi position, geographically is very precarious. They have the outlet for oil shipments through the Suez canal, always pretty dodgy but there is instability in Egypt at the moment. They have the outlet through the Persian Gulf and the straits of Hormuz, currently being pressurised by the Iranians, and then the outlet throught the Gulf of Aden, which is conrolled through Yemen, and Djibouti at the Bab-el-Mandeb straits. to the South of Saudi Arabia is Oman, and they seem to have been slightly more favourable to the Qataris in their dispute with the Saudis, than some of the surrounding states. The Saudis may hace painted themselves into a bit of a corner.
Dave B –
by the way
I don’t agree with all that article
Sorry Dave, did you mean the Scotish one or the earlier one?
From Dave B’s post
One Scotland-based expert, who has a background in flu pandemic planning for the NHS, said mass testing and contact tracing should have been introduced at a much earlier stage but that the apparent lethality of the virus globally owes much to the record numbers of elderly and sick people around the world who were “living on borrowed time as a result of modern medicines that extend their lives and reduce symptoms, but make them vulnerable to a novel zoonotic infection like this one”.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, they added: “I believe we will have to pay a high price for this lockdown in terms of the backlog of clinical problems put on hold by GPs and hospitals; a rise in gender based violence; a return to abuse of children on the at-risk register who should be in school; a rise in mental health problems induced by isolation that will be most prevalent in those without access to space and outdoor greenery; a loss of jobs, particularly for the low paid; and the demise of businesses and even industries.
“There is no doubt in my mind that this attempt to control a pandemic, for which planning was woefully inadequate from the beginning, will increase social inequalities in health.”
I agree with practically all of this, I am no cheerleader for the Government’s strategy, in my view they placed profit over people from the start and thousands have died and suffered because of the inaction at the early stages of the Government.
They didn’t introduce measures of control until it was far too late. Whilst Ireland for example had shut down schools, pubs and stopped St Patrick’s day parades, the British government let the Chelnham Festival, with over 120,000 spectators, go ahead, they allowed the Liverpool v Atletico Madrid match go ahead, despite Madrid being in lock down, football matches were not cancelled by the government but by football leagues themselves and then they announced that the pubs would be closed from Midnight on a Friday at 6pm, cue for everyone to go to the pub for the one last time!
They also missed opportunities to prepare any form of contingency in the two weeks they had to make arrangments, this was compounded by public service cuts over the decades. Local Authorities used to all have a disaster and emergency planning group, a colleague of mine was a member of the one in Northumberland for years and they met regularly and planned for all kinds of contingencies. Most LAs have abandonded their Contingency plans with the cuts but the Northumberland plan was one which was kept on, and from what I have heard has been fairly effective.
All of the time they put profit before human lives. I’m sure that when it came to the initial “herd immunity” response the likes of Dominic Cummings and his free marketeer head bangers were the “brains” behind that particular decision. It seems that the “new Churchill” ran the white flag up the flag pole at the first opportunity (as Charlie said first as a tragedy second as a farce)
I must say though that whoever the writer is they did get some bits wrong. The At Risk Register hasn’t exisited for about 15 years and all vulnerable children have been given places in school and CP Social Workers have been working flat out to keep kids safe as far as is possible.
I also feel the approach of “they were old so it doesn’t matter” is not one that I can agree with.
As to the idea that, they were “going to die anyway”, it might be news to some comrades out there, and I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but we are all “going to die anyway”
It is on the GlobalResearch site.
Just please spare me the stuff about it being a site for paedophiles, flat earthers and Christian creationists.
Why should the source of your information not be placed under scrutiny, surely as a sceptical worker, that’s what we should all be doing?
Are you saying that whatever you post is beyond scrutiny?
The website you quote from has some interesting videos
- “The truth about 5G”,
- “The Who is funded by Bog Pharma and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation” (I don’t think they mean the band by the way, although by all accounts John Entwistle and Keith Moon were very aquainted with various forms of pharmaceuticals)
- The seven step path from pandemic to totalitarianism
That’s in a 2 minute search, I’m sure there are more weird and wacky articles in there as well.
As to the article you point out:
First of all the claim “I am a doctor” is used to give the writer credibility, I’ve worked with lots of doctors over the years, some good some bad, some complete fruit cakes and many who I wouldn’t trust to get to the bar and back withthe drinks without fucking it up. Incidentially the same “I am a Doctor” claim could have been made by Dr Harold Shipman, Dr Mengele, Dr Bodkin Adams, to name but a few.
Looking at what he is saying, the jist is that the major health organisations are influenced by Big Pharma, they all have place men who have been in bed with big pharma for years and therefore are not the paragons of virtue that they claim to be, well there’s a surprise.
Doctors at all levels have been targets for the profit seekers, every GP is visited by Medical Reps flogging their latest version of a particular medication and hopeing the GP will prescribe this instead of a rival brand. You only need to go into a GP surgery to see the table littered with note pads, coffee cups, etc. plastered with the names of the various brands of medicines. On the basis that this shows the GPs are corrupt and in bed with big pharma, would you automatically dismiss the advice of your GP. Would you claim that any advice given by him or her is automatically tainted and incorrect.
AS stated the article’s main thrust is that as the national and supranational decision making bodies are up to their collective necks with pharmaceutical companies they are making decisions which suit Big Pharma. There is one pretty huge whole in this argument, Big Pharma haven’t got any treatments, or vaccines to sell.
What does it profit them to have everyone locked up, it sould suit them more to have everyone out and about getting ill and increasing their profits?
So the big question is why would big pharma try to use their influence to enforce a lockdown?
So let’s look at what the article says about the lockdown (by the way it’s not mine or anybody else’s on here and I thought you were trying not to make this personal?)
The article states:
For example: The Belgian and French governments’ recent decision to enter a strict lockdown, as directed by CARE and SCIENSANO, was presented as a totally rational decision shared by scientists worldwide.
But such was not the case. It was neither rational nor defended by the global scientific community.
A large number of physicians, professors, consultants and specialists were and still are opposed to the idea of locking up a healthy majority of the world’s population [27-28], and their opposition is based on scientific evidence.
So who are these large number, in fact what does large number actually mean, so far as I can see he quotes the same 10 from the Off Guardian site you referred to earlier. So we have the same information being recycled as if it is new information.
A quick look (I don’t have time for a thorough examination at the moment due to work commitments) at just one of these large numbers (10) of physicians gives us Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, a former Ship’s Doctor and SPD member of the German Parliament 1994 and 2009. A sort of left of centre, German, Liam Fox. A man who has not actively practiced medicine for almost 30 years and in whose former role in the 1980s as head of the Public Health Department in Flensburg, was responsible for employing as a doctor the medical impostor Gert Postel, later revealed to be a postman by training.
Our noble doctor also happens to be a member of Transparancy International Germany (TIG).
TIG, on whose board of directors Wodarg serves, distanced itself from his statements on 17 March 2020: “Transparency International Germany rejects the sweeping criticism of board member Dr Wolfgang Wodarg of the government measures to protect the population from the corona virus. (…) Wolfgang Wodarg is speaking on this matter as a private individual and not in his capacity as a member of the Management Board. On March 25, 2020, the board decided to suspend his membership in the association “until further notice“, which means that Wodarg can no longer exercise any functions on the board or as head of the health working group for the time being. The Board of Directors will commission an independent committee to look into Wodarg’s statements about the Conora virus and to determine whether his behaviour has harmed the interests of Transparency International Germany.”
Transparency Chairman Hartmut Bäumer said that the reason for this was that “Wodarg had expressed his views on “radical media” such as Rubikon, Geolitico, and in an interview with Eva Herman (Some background information, in August 2015, Herman published a conspiracy theory that claimed the European migrant Crisis was orchestrated by “powerful people in the finance sector” to eradicate the white, christian population of Europe and claimed that the September 11 attacks were a hoax, think sort of right wing David Icke without the tin foil hat), all of “which regularly work with conspiracy theories, with anti-democratic and sometimes anti-Semitic prejudices” and “oppose the basic democratic principles of Transparency”; while “some of them are personally close to the AfD.”
Sounds like a lovely bloke.
From the BBC:
“Sweden has seen its confirmed cases of Covid-19 jump from 16,004 to 16,755. The rise was much larger than in recent days, during which Sweden’s Public Health Agency had been cautiously celebrating a flattening of cases.
The agency’s deputy state epidemiologist Anders Wallensten said the majority of the new cases were in Stockholm. Increased testing of healthcare workers could be a factor, he said, but scientists were looking into other potential reasons.“The agency also adjusted an earlier estimation that one-third of Stockholm residents will have been infected by the virus by 1 May, which was featured in a report released by the agency earlier this week and withdrawn after officials admitted errors in calculations.
“I don’t think this should be looked upon as something that is representative of Swedish statistics in general,” Wallensten told the BBC from the news conference via video link. “It was a mistake, I think many people understand that we are working hard these days… unfortunately this was not spotted before it went out.”
On a slightly different note. Isn’t it a bit ironic that all of these right wing American survivalists, who have been preparing for the armaggedon and stock piling their underground shelters for the final conflict with the deep state, are out on the streets freaking out because they had to stop in the house for a fortnight. Soft Shites.
Looks like they’ll be easy pickings when the lizard people arrive
Ozymandis –
You are forgiven.
Go in peace to love and serve the Party,
Blessed be the Party,
Blessed be the Party’s holy name
Further to the discussion about numbers the updates have been made about deaths in “care” homes , this is from the BBC website:
Almost half of all people who have died with coronavirus in Europe were residents in care facilities, the World Health Organisation’s regional director for Europe has said.
Dr Hans Kluge told a press conference on Thursday there was a “deeply concerning picture” emerging regarding those in long-term care.
He said: “According to estimates from countries in the European region, up to half of those who have died from Covid-19 were resident in long-term care facilities. This is an unimaginable human tragedy.”
If that is the case in the UK (and the UK has a high number of “care” home residents per capita, so I know no reason why it shouldn’t) this would put the deaths in hospital and care homes up to around 27,000 since early March. To give some context the estimated annual total military and civilian deaths in the UK as a result of World War 2 was about 75,000. So in the seven weeks since the first death we have had about a third of the annual war deaths in World War Two. Comparable with the Flu, I think not.
