Bijou Drains
Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
Bijou Drains
ParticipantDS – “Well, they don’t give a shit because you’re a useless, brainwashed simp for your country’s ruling class. You are irrelevant and your views don’t matter a jot.”
So why are you here, then?
Bijou Drains
ParticipantSo I take it spelling is not your strong suit, is it, DS?
DS now rushes off to correct his spelling💩💩
Bijou Drains
ParticipantMugabe the man mainly responsibe for the Gukurahundi genocide. The International Association of Genocide Scholars estimated that 20,000 individuals lost their lives during this.
You still don’t get it do you, opposing one tyrant doesn’t mean you support the tyrants opponents.
Bijou Drains
ParticipantDave Spart said ” opponent of ANTICOLINIAL struggle” perhaps Freud was right, and DS unconsciously knows he’s taking shite
Bijou Drains
ParticipantSadly, in Dave Spart’s mind the world is full of Goodies and Baddies (he has admittted this himself). It appears to be difficult for him to conceive of a situation where there might be two sets of baddies.
He prefers to foam up in the mouth and continue being Putin’s lickspittle. Thankfully if he’s doing this to us where is is less likely to have any impact (as long as we keep challenging his anti socialist hogwash)
No doubt Dave Spart would also add to his list of “Goodies”:
Pol Pot
Hastings Banda
Mugabe
Gaddafi
Bokassa
Mengistu
Hoxha
Voldemort
and
Darth VaderBijou Drains
ParticipantAS- “Let’s not forget Comintern’s Third Period when all the “labour” parties became “social fascists”, placed on par with the Nazis.”
Dave Spart – “Alan just can’t help himself. If he’s not publishing lies from the Guardian he’s publishing lies from CIApedia.”
Actually The SPGB doesn’t need to rely on Wikipedia to know that the good people of the Communist Party of Great Britain smashed up and attempted to use the Nazi approach to intimidate political meetings in the UK, we were targetted as well!!
Bijou Drains
Participant“This will be the fourteenth prime minister I will have served under – and I’ve been poor under everyone of ’em.”
1 Sunak
2 Truss
3 Johnson
4 May
5 Cameron
6 Brown
7 Blaire
8 Major
9 Twatcher
10 Callaghan
11 Wilson
12 Heath
13 McMillan
14 Douglas-HomeSame number as me, and (despite earlier promises) I’ve not retired. Maybe that’s why Chelmsford is so pissed off with Pensioners. I don’t even get a bleeding bus pass!
Bijou Drains
ParticipantChelmsford’s analysis of the group of pensioners who were backing Boris and enjoying their snifters at the Blue Boar, shows the weakness of using anecdotal evidence as opposed to accurate data.
Clearly the pensioners at the Blue Boar were doing ok in the current cost of living crisis, because they had the money to go out for a drink.
The ones who aren’t doing well and who are unhappy with the current situation weren’t there! It’s highly unlikely that those in food and fuel starvation were going to struggle across to a pub to go in and make their situation known.
On another point, surely making comments such as ” A pensioner would sell her soul for a bag of Werther’s originals.” and Lizzie45’s attempt to use age as a way to belittle the SPGB is in a small part of a process of demonising a part of the working class, just like racism, homophobia, sexism, etc. Would people be as comfortable to make a comment like “a Pakistani would sell his sould for a popadum”
It might seem a small point, but the callous attitude of some people (not least the government) to older people dying in droves was quite alarming at times. Comments like this can add to that overall process of scapegoating.
Bijou Drains
ParticipantIf you like an Anti Thatcher song this one was written in the late 80s
Martin Stephenson, Washington’s finest’s (Washington Tyne and Wear, that is) recorded “left us to Burn” about the deviation of the mining and shipbuilding industries in the North East of England.
Music and lyrics
Bijou Drains
ParticipantIt looks like Larry the Downing Street Cat is a shoe in for next Prime Minister. He’s clearly in a league of his own in terms of intellect, personality and competence, when compared to his other cabinet colleagues
Bijou Drains
ParticipantNot my words DS, the words come from Fred Engels, you may have heard of him, you know, Karl Marx’s long term collaborator.
Still no word from you on the “go fund me” page. The button just needs to be pressed.
When you get to the front line, you might want to wear your brown trousers, I’m sure you’ll find them useful.
Bijou Drains
ParticipantDS – I didn’t say we didn’t do revolutionary work, we are active in lots of different ways, organising, spreading socialist ideas, countering anti socialist ideas (like yours), being active in our unions, discussing ideas with fellow wage slaves, etc. etc. etc.
The revolution, when it comes, will not be created by the comic opera activities you suggest and certainly not be created by prediciting the end of captitalism whilst trying to usher in state capitalism.
We prefer to go with the advice that Engels himself wrote in 1895 –
“And, finally, the newly-built quarters of the large cities, erected since 1848, have been laid out in long, straight and wide streets as though made to order for the effective use of the new cannon and rifles. The revolutionary, who would himself select the new working class districts in the north and east of Berlin for a barricade battle, would have to be a lunatic.
Does the reader now understand why the ruling classes, by hook or by crook, would get us where the rifle pops and the sabre slashes? Why, today, do they charge us with cowardice because we will not, without further ado, get down into the street where we are sure of our defeat in advance? Why are we so persistently importuned to play the role of cannon fodder?
The gentlemen are wasting their importunities as well as their provocations all in vain. We are not quite so silly. They might as well ask of their enemies in the next war to face them in the line formation of Frederick II, or in the columns of whole divisions a la Wagram and Waterloo, and with the old flint-and-pan gun in hand, at that. The time is past for revolutions carried through by small minorities at the head of unconscious masses. When it gets to be a matter of the complete transformation of the social organization, the masses themselves must participate, must understand what is at stake and why they are to act. That much the history of the last fifty years has taught us. But so that the masses may understand what is to be done, long and persistent work is required, and it is this work that we are now performing ”
Changing the subject slightly, regarding that “go fund me” page, do you want me to set it up for you?
Bijou Drains
ParticipantDave Spart wrote – ““In the Soviet Union for example state enterprises were required by law to generate profits or could be penalised if they did not.”
Entirely different to capitalist profits which are for the capitalist or paying out in dividends to investors. Do read more”
Can I suggest you start your reading here:
-
This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by
Bijou Drains.
Bijou Drains
ParticipantTS (aka Dave Spart) thinks that Britain is on the edge of revolutionary outbreaks “People are getting cold and hungry. Soon they’ll be angry and in a revolutionary mood.” This exposes him clearly (if any other evidence was needed) as a comic opera revolutionary. The people of Britain are worried about the cost of fuel and the cost of living generally, but “in a revolutionary mood”? There was more chance of a revolution kicking off about the football (soccer to you) being cancelled for Liz’s funeral!!
He then criticises us for not joining up in his imaginary revolution! Yet Dave Spart is unwilling to get off his backside and volunteer for the “anti nazi crusade” that Putin is undertaking in Ukraine.
If is because you haven’t got the airfare, DS, just let me know. I’ll set up a “go fund me” page like a flash and I’m pretty sure you will be on that plane quicker than you can say “imperialist lackey”. I’ll even throw a few quid in myself. Send us a picture of us in the front line.
Bijou Drains
ParticipantPGB states that there is a Certain logic to the comparison made between Putin versus Zalensky and Bugs Moran versus Al Capone. However, PGB thinks we as socialists should support Zelensky and Ukraine because Putin’s Russia was the aggressor.
Taking this point further, does PGB think that the SPGB should have supported Bugs Moran and his North Side gang in his dispute with Al Capone and the South Side gang because the South Side gang was the aggressor. The logic is the same
-
This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by
-
AuthorPosts
