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Thomas More:
I think it is important to realise that for TN, this is not really a political question. TN is not active in a political party (at least he has never stated which political party he is a member of, despite being asked this on several occasions), he does not actively campaign for any political organisation (from what anyone can see from his posts).
His support for Putin and the other despots he fawns over is not a political act, it’s really just an extension of his need to feel powerful and to reinforce his self esteem (which on the surface appears to be high and which he likes to feel is high, but we and he all know is cripplingly low). Being associated with powerful groups allows TN to feel some of the reflected “glory” of the sociopaths he so admires.
This is evidenced by the fact that he has been exposed on several occasions by his lack of understanding of the basic theoretical constructs of Marxism. He has dismissed the work of Engels as “just a load of quotes”, outside of Marxist thought he has recently been shown to have no understanding of Lenin’s theory of Imperialism (see recent posts) , he knows nothing of the work of Mao, Stalin etc, he is unaware of the nature of the Sino – Soviet split and the impact of this on his claim to support both sides of the split, he has no answer to the questions raised about the Molotov Von Ribbentrop pact or the fact that the “great” Stalin was happy to supply a wide variety of goods and arms to the Nazis he so despises. He commits schoolboy errors regarding facts and figures (for example dismissing the BBC and then using an out of date BBC report to support his claims) the list goes on.
Those of us who remember TN first emerging on the forum might remember that his first few posts, which were about China, came from a starting position that he assumed that we would support his views regarding the Chinese “Communist” Party. This demonstrates how lazy he is, how little research he does and really how little he even knows about parties that describe themselves as Socialist. Considering the myriad of parties who describe themselves as Socialist, how many can you think of that would support the Chinese “Communist” Party?
In summary TN claims to support the regimes he outlines so that he can look big and powerful and perhaps in the vain hope that someone will find him windswept and interesting.
It’s a bit like the kids, back in the day, that claimed to be anarchists because they had listened to a Sex Pistols song and had put a safety pin through their noses. Or perhaps like a supposed football fan who doesn’t know how the offside rule!
One of the defining characteristics of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is the need to be acknowledged as being correct in the things that they say. In general those with NPD will brow beat family, friends and colleagues until they just give in and say that the narcissist is correct (even though both parties know that it is a hollow acknowledgement). Alternatively they will develop controlling and coercive interpersonal relationships (often with vulnerable partners), which force their relationship partners to agree with view and opinions.
The thing that TN is really struggling with is the fact that on this forum he isn’t getting any admiration or even positive feedback. He feels he isn’t getting all of the acknowledgement he should for displaying his “pearls of wisdom”, and this frustrates him. To his mind we should bow down before him, or at least bow down to his powerful sociopathic heroes. He cannot acknowledge the fact that Putin’s invasion has not worked out as plan, he is still convinced that the Russian Army will overwhelm its enemies and the purge of Ukrainian Nazis will begin. Ironically it’s rather like Hitler’s call from the bunker to call for the non-existent Steiner Detachment to drive the Soviets out of Berlin!
This presentation is a typically narcissistic response. A guy who I worked with insisted that he hadn’t been sectioned; he was only in the secure hospital because he chose to be there and that he could walk out whenever he wanted to. Another, who had committed a number of murders, insisted that the figure was much higher and that several members of his family (who clearly were alive) were actually dead.
In many ways whilst we should be hostile to TN’s deeply anti working class rhetoric (they cannot be described as views or opinions) I genuinely feel we should also as human beings have some sympathy for his plight. People with this presentation very rarely seek out any form of support and or treatment.
What I would sincerely say to TS, it is possible for someone with narcissistic personality to develop new coping skills, improve relationships, and decrease distress levels. The myth that therapy can’t help people with narcissistic personality largely stems from the fact that many never actually seek such help. They might not even be aware they need it.
Therapeutic approaches such as Schema Therapy, Dialectical Behavioural Therapy and Gestalt Therapy have shown good results and may be something to be considered.
BD – “it would be reasonable to estimate using the official Russian death figures that 15,000 Russian and allied soldiers will have died.”
True Narcissist states “I would agree with those mumbers. The Ukrainians on the other hand have lost at least 100,000 dead possibly much higher. Ukrainian losses are unsustainable, Russian losses are not. That is why Russia will win and decisively”
Big difference is that I made it clear that I the estimate based on questionable data made from Russian sources. Making clear that the even the figures Russian agencies have put forward are very high, in comparison to other conflicts, using data to back this up.
The Narcissistic one has merely grabbed a figure from his fertile imagination with no comparable use of figures. A first year undergraduate submitting shite like that would get their head in their hands to play with, if they did that. [moderator deleted] I’ll let others make their own minds up on that issue.
TN can’t even be arsed to check the information from the Russian goverment sources re deaths from the Russian side.
5,987 killed between 24th Feb to 21st September – Russia’s Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu 21st Sept 2022
This did not include deaths from forces from the Luhansk PR Forces and Donetsk PR forces which have been reported as follows:
Donetsk PR deaths 3,833 reported by Donetsk PR official figues up to 17th November
Luhanks PR deaths 1,745 reported by Luhansk PR officials up to 1st November
That brings a total “official” death toll of nearly 12,000 deaths, without counting Russian deaths from 21st Sept. With over 3 months left of the year (if the war continues) it would be reasonable to estimate using the official Russian death figures that 15,000 Russian and allied soldiers will have died.
In comparison the number of US deaths in the Vietnam war was 58,281 during the 9 years of US full involvment with the war. An average of roughly 6,500 deaths per year. The official total deaths for the 10 year Soviet Afghan war was 14,453.
If the Afghan was was described as the Soviet Vietnam, how to describe the level of carnage described if even the lowest figures for deaths is accepted, is beyond me.
And TS thinks these deaths and the deaths on the other side are worthwhile to keep wheels of profit turning.
TN also refuses to answer my question about the possibility of NATO being reformed to become a vehicle for anti imperialism.
MS – “I do not think that he had read Lenin book on Imperialism and Bahrain book on Imperialism who is more accurate than Lenin, or Rosa Luxembourg on the accumulation of capital. ”
To be honest, MS, I’m not sure if he’s even read a single book. Maybe coloured in one or two, and maybe the occasional dot to dot, but a proper full book, not bloody likely.
BD – “Many of the countries in Nato have no significant history of what you would describe as imperialism (for example Poland”
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
You seem to think that a history of colonialism in the 17th Century equates to Imperialism!!!
Can I just quote (I know you hate quotes) Your hero Lenin’s definition of imperialism – “If it were necessary to give the briefest possible definition of imperialism, we should have to say that imperialism is the monopoly stage of capitalism”.
So you think that either you think that the monolpoly stage of capitalism was achieved in 17th Century Poland, or you have no great understanding of the theoretical basis of the ideological construct you claim to support. I know which one my money is on.
Moving on from your clear and obvious lack of understanding of the ideology you support, the main thrust of my question is “in the terms of your desire to create a muti polar world wide system, do you think that NATO has any possible capability to be transformed into an anti imperialist force which could support your desired outcome?
They call it “Don’t Pay”
But that’s bollocks, what they should really call themselves:
“We’ll pay, just not as much as you want us to”
They describe their movement thus:
Don’t Pay is a grassroots movement demanding a fair price for energy for everyone.
Yet can’t see the irony of their description.
If any movement should describe themselves as “Don’t Pay” is us.
TN – “Lol, now that Finland has joined Putin must be quaking in his boots!”
Finland and Sweden have both joined or are planning to join NATO
Sweden’s defence spending is estimated as $6.7 billion per annum
Finland’s defence spending is estimated as $5.8 billion per annumA total of $12.5 billion
Russia’s defence spending is estimated as $66 billion per annum.
The increase in NATO’s spending is therefore nearly 1/5th of the total amount of defence spending included in NATO’s budget.
Not unsubstantial.
The USSR had a history of underestimating the capability of Finland’s armed forces. You might look at The Winter War. (Your hero Stalin was happy to cooperate with your hated Nazis and their arms blockage of Finland)
Simple question for you TN
As an “Anti imperialist” is it possible for Nato to reform itself to become an anti imperialist body. Many of the countries in Nato have no significant history of what you would describe as imperialism (for example Poland, Luxemburg, Czech Republic, Solvakia, Norway, etc.) would it not be possible for Nato to become in your terms anti imperialist?Ts “Bojo’s Brain Fart is still playing dress ups as a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist.”
Just keep on denying the science mate, keep hurling insults, keep decending into the dark triad.
Denial or abnegation is a psychological defence mechanism first put forward by psychoanalyst Freud and furhter researched by his daughter Anna Freud. In the use of denial a person is faced with a fact that is “too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.”
Interesting refutation of the price/wage spiral myth, from Thatcher’s favourite economist:
True Narcissist – There are several news reports reporting a weakening of support from China. No doubt you’ll dismiss them as Guradian lies and rely on the pro authoritarian rabble you admire so much.
TN “pretend you’re a Tween Vogue pseudo-scientist?”
The information I have provided for you, regarding NPD (free of charge, I might add!) is based not on “pseudo science” but on the clinical diagnostic manuals the DSM 5 and it’s world wide equivalent ICD-11.
ICD-11, describes NPD in a similar way to the DSM 5:
“A disorder characterized by an enduring pattern of grandiose beliefs and arrogant behavior together with an overwhelming need for admiration and a lack of empathy for (and even exploitation of) others.
Personality disorder characterized by excessive self-love, egocentrism, grandiosity, exhibitionism, excessive needs for attention, and sensitivity to criticism.”You might note particularly the phrase “sensitivity to criticism”, your display of this feature is on going and very apparent.
You might care to note that ICD -11 is the recognised diagnostic manual used in your beloved China and Russia.
If it’s “pseudo science” perhaps you can explain the Chinese view on it, as described in the link below:
ICD-11 Implementation in China: Interview with Dr. Min Zhao and Dr. Jiang Long
As to linking this to your presentation, you’re doing the work for me with every post. You literally can’t help yourself.
TS “Who’s gonna be offended by that? Lol”
From:
“Empathy in Narcissistic Personality Disorder: From Clinical and Empirical Perspectives:Arielle Baskin-Sommers, Elizabeth Krusemark, and Elsa Ronningstam”
Narcissism and empathy have long been considered interrelated. From the early clinical conceptualizations of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) to the introduction of NPD in the DSM–III (APA, 1980), impaired empathic processing has been considered a hallmark of pathological narcissism and NPD (Adler, 1986; Akhtar, 1989, 2003; Cooper, 1998; Kernberg, 1983, 1985; Kohut, 1966; Ronningstam, 2005; Watson, Grisham, Trotter, & Biderman, 1984; Watson & Morris, 1991). Most often, “lack of empathy” is included as a signifier of the diagnosis and is highlighted in both the clinician’s and lay public’s impression of narcissistic individuals.
Moreover, a growing body of work indicates that several factors (e.g., low self-esteem, sense of internal control, self-enhancement, emotion intolerance, self-centeredness) may cooccur and affect the narcissistic individual’s empathic capability and functional pattern (Campbell, Reeder, Sedikides, & Elliot, 2000; Fonagy, Gergle, Jurist, & Target, 2002; Fonagy & Luyten, 2009; Fonagy, Steele, Steele, Moran, & Higgitt, 1991; Nezlek, Schutz, Lopes, & Smith, 2007; Ronningstam, 2009; Schore, 1994; Watson, Little, Sawrie, & Biderman, 1992). This accumulation of evidence spurred the description of empathic dysfunction to change from the inability to recognize how others feel in the DSM–III classification, to the unwillingness to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others in DSM–IV. Some narcissistic individuals may have intact empathic ability, but choose to disengage from others’ pain or distress, while others may have a deficient ability in the recognition of others’ feelings.
MS, You are correct, the only riposte that True Narcissist has is to hurl insults (usually fairly witless and banal). In these insults he “points out” the intellectual failings of others. The sub text of this message is that he is the special one, the one everyone should be in awe of, as I said, the all powerful Wizard of Oz.
Although in the many years of reading and contributing to this forum there have been disputes between posters, sometimes ending in hot blooded arguments, leading to insults, etc. True Narcissist is the only one who has resorted to childish name calling, this says a lot about him.
This is highly predictable considering his psychopathalogical profile which clearly displays signs of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
It is important however not to get angry, beneath TN’s attempt to show us all that he is a big and powerful intellectual force, which links to the powerful allies (Stalin, Mao, Putin, et al), he does not realise that he is actually exposing for all to see, his true self: a small, frightened, intimidated child.
He genuinely deserves our pity, not our anger.
Reports have come in of a missile strike just over the border into Poland. Russians are saying it was the Ukranians, Ukrannians saying it was the Russians. The one thing that no one is denying is that two members of the working class died.
Hopefully this will not lead to further escalation and greater loss of life.
