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November 24, 2023 at 10:45 pm in reply to: “Revolutionary Communist Party” name to be revived #248576
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ParticipantThat’s the photo in question.
Seems strange they would use the “Revolutionary Communist Party” title, considering the general view of the old 1980’s RCP aka “The Ray Chadburn Party”. Is Martha Lane Fox and all of the now right wing “heed the balls” going to rejoin?
This change might be a result of the large number of ex Grant Trots that have been thrown out of Starmer’s New, New Labour Party.
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Participant“Ask yourself, if you were a Palestinian in Gaza and had access to a weapon what would you do? If Israel killed your family, how would you react? Why would you care about international or humanitarian law when you know it only applies to the oppressed, not the oppressors? If terror is the only language Israel uses to communicate, the only language it apparently understands, wouldn’t you speak back with terror?”
And if you changed it around to read “if Hamas killed your family how would you react”
The problem is that eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, leaves everyone blind and hungry
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ParticipantHaving never scanned the QR code (or any other QR code to be honest) does the code take you directly to the Party’s front web page, or to some other page. I might be teaching my granny to suck eggs, but would it not be be directed to the “who we are” page rather than the front page.
We are trying to recruit new members, the section about joining is towards the bottom of this web page, maybe this should be closer to the top. Also perhaps we should be more specific about the topics covered in the membership test, explaining what our view is in these areas and why we need to ensure that all prospective members agree in these areas.
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Participantbut the only country whose foundation is intimately associated with ethnic cleansing and genocide is
What about, the US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, All of South and Central America, the Caribbean countries, to name but a few and even though I didn’t mention the word genocide
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ParticipantVery little mention has been made of the Deir Yassin Massacre, or the Lydda massacre, both carried out by organisations which the British had described as terrorists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_from_Lydda_and_Ramlealso:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiramis_Hotel_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%27sa%27_Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_al-Zeitun_massacreLike most other nation states, including the planned Palestinian state, Israel was built on bloodshed, terror, appropriation and death
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ParticipantThis must be unprecedented in British political history — a Cabinet minister acting as an agent of a “foreign” power”
Not really unprecedented, Thatcher/Major Blair was the US’s lap dog in the 2 Gulf wars, Attlee was happy to send Troops in to support the US’s interests in Korea, to cite just a few.
November 3, 2023 at 7:36 pm in reply to: We should correct the party statement on our website #248145Bijou Drains
Participant“And that’s why you haven’t been able to convince more than a relatively tiny handful of people in 120 years.”
And it’s also why millions of people are still dying from war, starvation and neglect needlessly over the last 120 years.
Anyway, I thought you had pissed off up to deepest Peru hunting for Paddington’s wellies and traces of marmalade sandwiches.
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Participant“i tried to use the quote function but the system blocked me. i’m never sure if there’s a malicious member hanging about (traitor! traitor! let’s nail his balls to the wall)”
From your occasional postings, I really never had you down as a Stirnerist, but perhaps your apparent sense of egoism betrays you.
The truth is, mate, your not that important to be blocked by us, or probably any one else. Sorry to upset you.
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ParticipantZJW – faraor gan ach cúpla focal
With regards following Mayo, I do have that cross to bear (the curse of ’51) as well as following the perennially trophy less Newcastle United. I mentioned my twin affiliations to a farmer from Fermanagh who said to me “Ahh Jeysus, how many mirrors have your family broken”
I’ve been putting a tenner on a double of Newcastle winning the Cup and Mayo winning the All Ireland for the last 25 years, still might come off this year.
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ParticipantIt contains the excellent lyric: “Nothing in this world comes without some kind of fight. Got to kick at the darkness ’till it bleeds daylight.”
Sounds a bit violent to me, think I’ll stick with the sport🙄
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Participant“I think that in Ireland they play a sort of rugby with a round ball called Gaelic football. I suppose their anthem might be “The Merry Ploughboy” whose chorus is;”
They do play Gaelic Football, but it is definitely not a sort of Rugby, it is a far more fluid and less legally technical than either Union or League. It’s a terrific game to watch (as is Hurling). Been to several games and a trip to Croke Park is well worth a visit. (Maigh Eo Abú)
As to the music (keeping the discussion within the topic, mod) most games at county level begin with the Irish National anthem, The Soldier’s Song (Amhrán na bhFiann) which has the usual nationalistic bombast. The first verse for example starts with:
“Soldiers are we, whose lives are pledged to Ireland,” but to be fair the melody is a bit more lively than the dreadful dirges that make up the vast majority of National Anthems.Bijou Drains
Participant“That doesn’t apply to the South Wales mining values where rugby union was the popular sport. Maybe why rugby league clubs sent out scouts”
Used to do bits of work up in South Wales, up into the valleys, etc. the rugby club culture was very different to that in England.
It’s similar when you go up to the Scottish Borders, Kelso, Galashiels, Melrose, etc. Rugby mad.
Thing is, if they made the ball round, they could kick it properly and they wouldn’t have to pick it up.
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Participant“It’s ironic that this is the anthem for a violent sport (rugby).”
It’s actually the anthem for Rugby Union, not Rugby. The Rugby Football League split from the Rugby Football Union because the workers were starting to beat the public school boys at their own game. The claim was that miners and mill workers were professionals because they were given compensation from the clubs to make up for the time they lost playing rugby. The southern clubs, mainly based on old boys from the public school system, didn’t have to worry because they were “independently wealthy” i.e. living off the stolen profits of surplus value. A similar split occurred in Australia.
Rugby Leage was considered to be part of the radical movement in France and the Vichy state banned the game, with the support of the French Rugby Union and transferred all of the assets of the generally working class sport of Rugby League, to the French Rugby Federation. (Perhaps Moo would agree to banning Rugby in a Socialist Society???).
There are many people in the North West and Yorkshire despise the Rugby Football Union and similarly dispise that song.
I would also question whether or not Rugby (or any code of football) meets the definition of “violent”. Violent – “using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.”
Aggressive, yes, violent?
And if in a Socialist society people freely choose to play football, rugby, Tae Kwando, Cumberland/Westmorland wrestling, boxing, tiddly winks or lacrosse, who am I or Moo to say they shouldn’t do it?
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ParticipantLizzie45 “As I’m going away for an extended period (don’t all cheer at once!)”
Don’t worry, you’re not as important than you think you are😂😂
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ParticipantA little quote from that article gives an interesting insight into the SPEW mentality:
“This led us to raise publicly the idea of an alternative workers’ party to Labour. We recognised that this was still a minority view, even amongst those who had retained a socialist consciousness, some of whom could be won to a revolutionary programme and organisation. This was illustrated by the singing of ‘The Internationale’ on mass demonstrations in France in the period following the collapse of the Soviet Union.”
There you have it, spoken from the lips of the vanguard. You can judge the level of socialist consciousness, the level of understanding of the need to reorganise society on the basis of common ownership, the level of public insight into the class struggle between those who own the means of production and those who produce wealth, by knowing that ……………… some French people were having a sing song.
Fuck me rigid, if I had know that 40 years ago I would have learned to play the mouth organ and we’d all now be living in a Socialist society.
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