Russian Tensions
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March 11, 2024 at 1:00 pm #250913ALBKeymaster
Something to reassure (hopefully not disappoint) TM
https://news.yahoo.com/no-direct-threat-russia-nato-153230479.html
March 11, 2024 at 3:21 pm #250915Thomas_MoreParticipantThanks ALB.
Any notion that i would be hoping for war is ludicrous. And as for my “beloved animals”, i want not only peace, but socialism, for them too.
Could Biden start something if he will be losing the election, so as to dump the Trump in a war, assuring continued involvement in Ukraine?
March 12, 2024 at 10:58 am #250970Thomas_MoreParticipantWith Sweden now also in NATO, won’t Russia be looking more at the land corridor to Kaliningrad?
March 12, 2024 at 1:24 pm #250972ALBKeymasterWhy would that make any difference? It’s not as if Sweden and Russia were allies before.
March 12, 2024 at 1:36 pm #250973Thomas_MoreParticipantBut Lithuania and Poland, rabidly anti-Russian, and full of “We are protected by NATO”, could block access.
Plus, Sweden is no longer neutral.- This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by Thomas_More.
March 12, 2024 at 11:07 pm #250994Thomas_MoreParticipantCNN: Things came close in late 2022, but China and India intervened.
March 12, 2024 at 11:30 pm #250995AnonymousInactiveNoam Chomsky has written that one or two occasions that the Soviet Union tried to strike Europe and the US and some generals did not follow the instructions
March 13, 2024 at 12:18 am #250998Thomas_MoreParticipantWhich, however, negates the notion that heads of state would never launch nuclear weapons!
And, to launch the strategic, big, ones, Putin would not need to go through the channels necessary for firing the tactical ones, as i believe was said back in 2022.And the situation now is much more dangerous than during the Cold War.
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March 13, 2024 at 4:45 pm #251005Thomas_MoreParticipantPutin is “ready to launch nuclear missiles.” Three warnings in one month.
March 13, 2024 at 7:15 pm #251011Thomas_MoreParticipantI think it is obvious that Putin will want to annex Moldavia. Will NATO be looking to incorporate that country?
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March 13, 2024 at 7:28 pm #251013Bijou DrainsParticipantIn fact he is actually stating that he is prepared to use them. If any of the nuclear powers had the weapons and stated that they were not prepared to use them, it would be pretty stupid thing for them to say.
I can’t work out what line the Independent is taking, the main owner is the son of a Russain oligarch, although there seems to be an anti Putin approach. Either way I don’t trust them
March 14, 2024 at 2:24 pm #251023Thomas_MoreParticipantAttn Wez. Regarding your remark on my “beloved animals’ revenge”, i have just come across this piece in the Standard which shows how our fates are all connected:
“The Same Old Lethal Delusion
“An elderly tired man and his dog walk for miles out of Mariupol. They walk by burned out buildings and over the rubble of bombed roads. All around them is burning and devastation.
“An old lady bent over her shopping trolley pushes it to a sparsely stocked grocer’s. She lives on the frontier and has heard neighbours abuse her as the ‘enemy.’ A man and his family flee from the bombardments. He carries his crippled German Shepherd over his shoulder, struggling with the weight; but he will not leave his dog behind.
“This writer cannot ignore the plight of the other animals caught up in this misery, for they are part of, not separate from, the human tragedy.
“There are innumerable true and personal stories in this war, swallowed up in the overall suffering of thousands, and most will never be known. They do not interest those who are blasé about war; who talk about advances and retreats, ‘victories’ and defeats, strategic interests and geopolitics.
“We socialists are never blasé about war. We know as members of the world’s working class that to participate in the murder of each other at the behest of our exploiters is to be deluded.
“With capitalism in overdrive, poisoning the Earth, threatening life with extinction (including the human race), destroying climate balance, pushing us all militarily toward nuclear annihilation, it has never been more urgent for us, the world’s working class – who form 99 percent of the human population – to unite and democratically get rid of the world capitalist system before it gets rid of all of us. Yet in the midst of global disaster, we are still doing the bidding of the 1 percent’s obsession with profit and capital accumulation. This includes fighting their wars, killing one another, in the delusion that we have ‘countries’ to kill and die for. The same old lethal delusion.
“We urge the workers of Ukraine and of Russia, and of all places in bloody and senseless capitalist conflict, to realise they have much more in common with their exploited brothers and sisters on ‘the other side’ than they can possibly have with their exploiters at home. We urge them to stop inflicting misery on one another at the behest of heads of state, and to pool their energies in union with one another to overthrow this defunct and deadly world capitalist system – an overthrow which, when we are once united in our millions, can be achieved with relative ease.
“So that we can at last, as a united humanity – free from the profit system with its warfare, poverty and devastation – solve together and reverse the damage which world capitalism is now causing.
“Let us no longer subject ourselves to lethal delusions such as nationalism. Let us claim the world for all of us, ending wars and frontiers forever.
“World socialism, now!”
March 14, 2024 at 11:33 pm #251031AnonymousInactive1 ) Reading the commentaries in Russian Today ( RT ) who supported Putin and the Russian government, it is like reading the commentaries of the followers of Donald Trump, there is not difference, both support the killing of human beings and the opponents are like animals.
The working class in our time has been totally distorted, and it is shameful to read their political commentaries, Karl Marx over estimated the taking of class consciousness by the working class
2) I do support animals too, and they deserve a better world, and some species have been vanished in order to produce profits, and some peoples are breeding animals for hunting and for them it is a pleasure to kill the animals
March 15, 2024 at 2:22 pm #251042Thomas_MoreParticipantSo, war on Russian workers who want to flee from Putin’s Russia!
(Whilst always saying there is no ill-will toward the common people of Russia!)March 15, 2024 at 4:01 pm #251047james19ParticipantX Twitter could be banned in the US?
Interesting take on this?
If only they were against all capitalist wars! -
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