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  • in reply to: Religion or Economy #104432
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    To what extent socialism is similar to Islamic economic system? Was Marx influenced by Islam or by Hegel?

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104423
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    Vin MarattyExtremely informative and helpfull, thank you sir :)In relation to Mohammadens, I may put some light. Their scripture says, do not consume wine and engage in adultery in afterlife you will have rivers of wine and hoors(beautiful, virgin girl, she does not bleed and sweat). Moreover, the scripture(quran) says universe was created by God, devil(iblees) was the best servent of god but he but refused to lay down his head before Adam, so since then he is devil and god has given him many powers and control.About Mohammaden, an earthquake is a symptom that god is angry. Correct your action, and follow the Quran(holy book). A mohammaden killed for Islam(religion) will go straight to jannah. They have a belief that their scripture is for the entire world. The Mullah(priests) imposes on mohammadens that the worldly life is temporary, so prepare here for hereafter. Pray more, no matter your family is starving, go for tableegh(preaching religion) and god will settle the transactions of your business. 

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104422
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    ALBThank you for making me correct, I realized that one religion is also not a solution, after a thourough thought. 

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104419
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    rodshaw Therefore, they are exploited. Religion is also a tool for oppressor. No it is not a hope for a hopeless world neither the heart of a heartless world, it could be if there was merely One religion. Numerous religion exist. Which religion is hope? The cry for oppressed because, oppressed thought that God listens and he will save us, but they never know that god only listen to his priests. Yes,  it was the opium for people, they lost their mind. 

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104418
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    rodshawHow you see religion as a source of inequality of wealth? and how much religion is serving the ruling class. By religion I do not mean religious scripture but priests and people.  

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104415
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    Vin Maratty  No, capitalism still needs and will always need the shoulders of religion. As far as my limitied knowledge of world is concerned, my experience suggests that Asia is under the strong influence of religion, so to maintain a good capitalist society religion is required to exploit them for centuries. 

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104414
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    ALB   The Madrassas and mosques( a place of learning and praying,worship) is also used for such purposed in Pakistan and Afghanistan since 1980’s. In order to save economic interest of the ruling class the innocent fellows are the victims of the priest, who are prepared to perform specific violent tasks(murder, bomb blast, kidnapping). In Hindustan/India Pundits and exploiting people in the name of religion too, Narindra modi, the current prime minister of India, is a soldier of pundits, they do not want to save the India but their economic interest.Why I have highlighted the economic interest merely, there is a reason, the political factor, religious factor, social factor, etc. What is their main purpose, a war is waged what are the outcomes,  the winner occupy the resources and wealth.Read the argument again I never said it is religion, but religious people(priest, pope, pandit, swami, dev, baba, mullah, guru). What Christianity has done, and what Islam is in front of us. By Christianity and Islam I do not mean their holy books command them to do so. We are dragged in the name of religion for ruling class personal benefits. .Therefore, they are exploited. Religion is also a tool for oppressor. No it is not a hope for a hopeless world neither the heart of a heartless world, it could be if there was merely One religion. Numerous religion exist. Which religion is hope? The cry for oppressed because, oppressed thought that God listens and he will save us, but they never know that god only listen to his priests. Yes,  it was the opium for people, they lost their mind. 

    in reply to: Religion or Economy #104411
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    why were the masses exploited in the name of religion? The religion priests have always exploited the ordinary being for economic means, respect and slavery. Fear was generated, so that he may not retaliate. Science was criticized by church, rationality was challenged by faith. God did nothing but it has empowered the capitalist class, it exploited a particular class. The purpose has always remained to spread religion peacefully, through missionarries or by waging wars, but the gains were economic mainly. Once the religious powers and preiest realised, they need resources, the greed supported the idea of war. So, nations were destroyed for the sake of some stupid people. Whether it be christianity or islam. It is clear to us how they use religion as a tool to loot resources of the world.

    in reply to: The Religion word #89663
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    We are hopefull, we are not guilty, we are against the cut-throat competition… Soon, the sun will rise, darkness will be the will fate of oppressers. 

    in reply to: The Religion word #89662
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    Religious people have their own set of thoughts. The faith oriented people will never accept other religious people even if you allow them in the party. Once they grow in number and strength, they will have their own rules against other religions and those who are not religious. Let the socialist be few in number, but what to do with senseless and stubborn fellows. Faith will soon be eliminated from the world, as we see how it has diminished. Have patience, If we could not see socialism, our children and their childrens will see. 

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