The Roma

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    alanjjohnstone
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    i have been following the case of the girl in Greece found in a Roma community who is presumed abducted and was being brought up by the Roma family supposedly for possible use as begger or prostitution or thief or whatever.

     

    It is from reading the comments section from readers in the newspapers that i have began wondering about the double standards of the publishers. I have no doubt that the comments would have long been closed if the racism was aimed at Jews repeating the blood libel or about Blacks repeating claims of low IQ or any other sterotyping of one particular segment of the population. Yet comments expressing racial hatred are seldom removed. 

     

    I can only assume that the press are happy to be accomplices in the victimisation of the Roma, since after all,  they have few defenders, little lobby influence and negligible political power. 

    #97123
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    If people remember how the satanic child abuse spread from one social services to another – Roma child abductions appear to be contagious, too, spreading to Ireland http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/22/irish-police-remove-blonde-child-roma-family One commentator has questioned why if the blonde Maria in Greece is suspected of being abducted, why the other dark-featured children in the family who also have questionable documentation  have not also been taken away by the authorities as possible abductees…ahhh…they were not blue-eyed and blonde. Also see here for link to light skinned Roma with blonde hair and blue eyes.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanichal 

    #97124
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Update: In the Dublin case Gardai were also told by the family that the girl was born at the Coombe Hospital in 2006, but preliminary checks could not confirm that. However, an independent examination of the Coombe records yesterday showed that the woman had given birth to a daughter on the day she mentioned in 2006.The child's first name on the birth record differed from the name used by the girl, but it was accepted that this was not unusual.The definitive DNA tests are now awaited. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/roma-couple-take-dna-tests-to-prove-that-dublin-child-7-is-their-daughter-29687513.html The police raid was initiated by a journalist obtaining information via Facebook. 

    #97125
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    So the DNA results now confirm that the blue-eyed blonde girl in the Dublin Roma family is biologiclly part of the family . . confirming that blue eyed blonde Roma do exist.and that it was indeed possible for the Greek Roma Maria to have been informally adopted from another Roma. Another case in Ireland of the authorities taking into custody a 2 yr old also proved to be a false alarm.

    #97126
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Bulgarian children who need families through international adoption are typically of Roma descent – or commonly referred to as a “gypsy” child.  While the word “gypsy” to us may drum up images of romantic and colorful fortune-telling characters, in Eastern Europe it is an extremely derogatory term and the Roma people are highly discriminated against. They are often thought of as highly uneducated, thieves, or social parasites. These children are not typically adopted by Bulgarian families. In reality, these beautiful children with dark soulful eyes are born to families that may be uneducated, poor, and have little opportunity as a result of discrimination. Their parents receive very little access to basic public services, such as health care, public transportation, or sanitation. Due to poverty, the majority of Bulgarian children, upwards of 90% are abandoned at birth. [my emphasis]Read more: http://www.mljadoptions.com/Bulgaria.aspx#ixzz2icIw6Qrw “Three quarters of families who want to adopt a child refuse outright to take Roma children” –  the data published by the National Office of Adoptions for 2012. The State-approved abduction of Roma childrenhttp://www.errc.org/article/forced-removal-of-romani-children-from-the-care-of-their-families/2290 http://www.romatransitions.org/roma-families-in-britain-scare-tactics-or-an-absence-of-professionalism/

    #97127
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Update: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/woman-bulgaria-girl-family-greece-maria A Bulgarian Roma woman claims to be mother. She herself is very dark skinned, and has another fair skinned, blonde child. There is no claim of kidnapping or selling the child (although she will be charged with this). She just couldn't afford raising her and an informal adoption took place.  It also seems evidence of fiddling the benefits system is also evidence of child-trafficking according to Greek police. 

    #97128
    alanjjohnstone
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    So "the blonde angel's"  real parents have been found – another Roma family. No kidnap – no abduction, just a fairly common informal adoption and lo and behold – fair skinned blonde haired blue eyed Roma exist in the world. No lead headline story of the outcome. Well the authorities never give up and vindictively still prosecuting both families on lesser charges of illegal adoption. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24673804 Will the press now apologise for their racist assumptions and the repeat of age-old slurs against the Roma. I doubt it . They can also apologise while at it to all those tragic families who have lost children and were given false hope that they "could have been taken by the gypsies".  There is no doubt that there exists a baby selling trafficking industry, particularly in the Third World, but it is centred upon the innumerable official and semi-official orphanages and involves childless Westerners buying a child. 

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