The Religion word
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Amazing, but this thread started by a sympathiser has had more than 33,000 views! More sympathisers!!
Vin Maratty wrote:Amazing, but this thread started by a sympathiser has had more than 33,000 views! More sympathisers!!It would be nice to think that most of the viewers are sympathisers. I suppose there's no way of knowing.
rodshaw wrote:Vin Maratty wrote:Amazing, but this thread started by a sympathiser has had more than 33,000 views! More sympathisers!!It would be nice to think that most of the viewers are sympathisers. I suppose there's no way of knowing.
I suppose we would have to ask Admin about that. My own blog breaks down visitors by the sites they view from, but it does not identify them individually. But it may be possible to know how many views were not from members of this forum. Not sure
The view count for this thread is now on 34,154.Vin posted the count at 33,000 on 15/8/2014.The next big hitter as far as I can tell is the Occupy Movement thread at about 18,000 hits.Seems people are interested in what is/was happening on this thread. I doubt it will be party members looking over a dormant thread. The elephant in the room?
The 33,000 viewers won't be different people. They'll include us who contribute every time we look at it.
Hi MikeWhat I mean with "The elephant in the room" is that this is an issue that is often ridiculed and ignored, yet will not go away.Though I have no belief in any kind of god or after life, I don't understand the SPGBs stance on not letting in socialists who have a spiritual belief. If a person rejects capitalism and understands and wants socialism, then it is irrelevant whether that person believes or not.
Hi AdamDo you know that the almost double views of the Occupy thread are coming from us on this site? If so that's fair enough, but I don't click on any thread unless something is going on.I'm not suggesting every view is from a new person, I'm just doubtful site members are making up over 100 views every few days. when the thread is dormant.It's now at 33,269. Just done a quick calculation and it's gone up by 115 views since yesterday. If there is evidence it's just us lot, that's fine.
Just wait till the Science for Communists thread has been going for nearly two years and see how many hits that's got to…over 6000 in its first month.
I think you're missing the point Rodshaw. The Occupy thread has been going for a year longer than the Religion thread, yet the Religion thread is still generating many multiple hits even when dormant. Any thread when it is buzzing will generate a huge amount of hits, but when it eases off as the Science for Communism will at some point, will it keep racking up continuous multiple hits hits like the Religion thread, or a lot less like the Occupy thread? Who knows, time will tell?The point I'm making is the Religion thread is generating an embarrassing (for the SPGB) amount of interest even when dormant. It could be from party members with a secret religious fetish. There may well be no way of telling, but has the thought ever occurred to anyone, that people with a socialist leaning, as well as a spiritual belief may be looking to see what real socialists think of the subject?
While addressing the U.N. conference this week, on the group known as I.S., President Obama said, " No god condones this terror."Well I guess Obama's script writer was no biblical scholarLet's take a look at; Exodus 12: 29-30 At midnight the Lord struck down all of the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of the Pharoah, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner who was in the dungeon. Or, Chronicles 21: 14-15 So the Lord sent a plague on Isreal and 70,000 men of Isreal fell dead. And God sent an Angel to destroy Jerusalem Perhaps; 1 Samuel: 14: 12-13 " Put to death men, women, children and infants." Even; Isaiah 13: 15-16 (a prophecy against Babylon) All who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes. Their houses will be looted and their wives ravished What about; Ezekiel 9: 5-6 Kill without showing compassion, slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children And; Deuteronomy 20: 16-17 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave anything alive that breathes The list goes on, but you should have the message by now. The god of the bible is no god of love. He is a war god. All military nationshad and still have a god of war.
Quote:" I can not imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own– — a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbour such thoughts through fear or ridiclous egotism." Albert EinsteinInteresting news item in today's Times:
Quote:More people believe in aliens than in God.Belief in aliens and the supernatural is more common than belief in God, according to a poll of 1,500 adults and 500 children. The study found that 55 per cent of adults believed in ghosts, 47 per cent in UFOs, 27 per cent in Angels, but only 25 per cent in God. Among the children questioned, belief in God rose to 33 per cent and in aliens to 64 per cent, according to Ripley's Believe It or Not!A separate YouGov poll found that 2 per cent of Anglican priests do not believe in God. Another 16 per cent of 1,500 Anglican clergy were "unclear about God."Who says the working class can never be wrong! Confirmation, though, of my prejudice that Anglicanism is the least harmful religion. Maybe among the doubters and deniers are the two ex-SPGBers who have become Anglican priests …The serious lesson may be that we should attack paranormal theories as much as if not more than religion.
rodshaw wrote:Is that the Ripley of the Alien films?Someone mention Sigourney?
It gets even better. Apparently one of the 2% of Anglican clergy is a bishop ! From today's Times under the headline "God may be just in our heads, say clergy":
Quote:You might expect to hear talk of God as a figment of human thought around the dinner tables of eminent sociobiologists, but not at the heart of the Church of England. You would be wrong.A bishop is among the 2 per cent of British Anglican clergy who are "not sure 'God' is more than a human construct", a poll has found.While 83 per cent believe in a personal God, some are vaguer, including 3 per cent who said "there is a some sort of spirit or life force". Almost one in ten think it is impossible to define the nature of God, following the example of the 9th-century Irish theologian Johannes Scotus Eriugena, who wrote. "God himself does not know what he is because he is not anything."Some 1500 clergy were polled, so if 2 per cent think that God is a "human construct", that's 30 such Anglican clergymen or women.
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