Russian Tensions

February 2023 Forums General discussion Russian Tensions

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  • #226740
    J Surman
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    #226741
    1stworldview
    Blocked

    Biden can’t give Putin a written guarantee, because that would be to acknowledge defeat, and would alienate Ukraine.
    And Putin can’t back down without one.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by 1stworldview.
    #226743
    ALB
    Keymaster

    At least there will be no more talk of an “imminent” invasion until the two meet. Neither side is going to concede anything until they need to and then it will be in the form of a compromise in which both sides gain or can say they have gained something. Ukraine will be satisfied with anything that gives them some guarantee of security.

    Russia giving the impression that they are preparing to invade (they know every movement of their troops is subject to satellite observation)is part of the diplomatic manoeuvring and the US will know this.

    Interesting that Britain has been excluded from the negotiations over the breakaway areas, in which the Western capitalist bloc will be represented by France and Germany who have more to lose from the economic fall-out of any invasion. In any event, what Britain might want won’t come into it, not that it appears to be any different from what the US tells them.

    #226744
    1stworldview
    Blocked

    How would Ukrainian army vehicles get to Rostov without going right through the Donbass?

    #226745
    1stworldview
    Blocked

    Biden won’t want to reach any accord unless it stops Nordstream 2.

    #226746
    1stworldview
    Blocked

    Recognition of the Donbass could be construed conveniently by the West as annexation, and trigger the sanctions, ruling out any accord.

    #226747
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I would have thought that was at the bottom of his agenda. In fact I don’t suppose it will be in the agenda at all.

    Just to clarify that I was referring to the nord stream gas line here.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by ALB.
    #226748
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Part of the Donbas is still controlled by Ukrainian forces so in theory they could made an incursion into the Rostov region from there. Doesn’t seem very likely though.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by ALB.
    #226749

    I don’t think that Dunbas is very important for them at the present time, they have higher priorities

    #226752
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster
    #226753
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Last month Biden apparently made a gaffe about distinguishing an invasion from a “minor incursion”. Perhaps it wasn’t a gaffe after all? In any event it was clearly something that had been discussed.

    #226754
    1stworldview
    Blocked

    Aljazeera and RT correspondents don’t see Biden making any concessions.

    #226755

    RT is an alarmist and conspiracionist newspaper and the participants are just a bunch of conspiracionists who believe in the concept that one single country is imperialist, most of them are anti yankeeist but they are not anti capitalists and they support Putin

    #226756

    Sometimes ICC make good analysis and much better than WSWS

    #226757
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    All the media outlets are now suggesting that Putin is contemplating the formal recognition of the independence of the two breakaway provinces or even their annexation as in the case of Crimea.

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