Russian Tensions
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February 21, 2022 at 6:17 am #226740
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This is a better link.February 21, 2022 at 7:37 am #226741Anonymous
InactiveBiden can’t give Putin a written guarantee, because that would be to acknowledge defeat, and would alienate Ukraine.
And Putin can’t back down without one.February 21, 2022 at 9:10 am #226743ALB
KeymasterAt least there will be no more talk of an “imminent” invasion until the two meet. Neither side is going to concede anything until they need to and then it will be in the form of a compromise in which both sides gain or can say they have gained something. Ukraine will be satisfied with anything that gives them some guarantee of security.
Russia giving the impression that they are preparing to invade (they know every movement of their troops is subject to satellite observation)is part of the diplomatic manoeuvring and the US will know this.
Interesting that Britain has been excluded from the negotiations over the breakaway areas, in which the Western capitalist bloc will be represented by France and Germany who have more to lose from the economic fall-out of any invasion. In any event, what Britain might want won’t come into it, not that it appears to be any different from what the US tells them.
February 21, 2022 at 1:10 pm #226744Anonymous
InactiveHow would Ukrainian army vehicles get to Rostov without going right through the Donbass?
February 21, 2022 at 1:29 pm #226745Anonymous
InactiveBiden won’t want to reach any accord unless it stops Nordstream 2.
February 21, 2022 at 3:33 pm #226746Anonymous
InactiveRecognition of the Donbass could be construed conveniently by the West as annexation, and trigger the sanctions, ruling out any accord.
February 21, 2022 at 3:35 pm #226747ALB
KeymasterI would have thought that was at the bottom of his agenda. In fact I don’t suppose it will be in the agenda at all.
Just to clarify that I was referring to the nord stream gas line here.
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February 21, 2022 at 3:35 pm #226748ALB
KeymasterPart of the Donbas is still controlled by Ukrainian forces so in theory they could made an incursion into the Rostov region from there. Doesn’t seem very likely though.
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February 21, 2022 at 4:43 pm #226749Anonymous
InactiveI don’t think that Dunbas is very important for them at the present time, they have higher priorities
February 21, 2022 at 4:54 pm #226752alanjjohnstone
KeymasterFebruary 21, 2022 at 4:57 pm #226753ALB
KeymasterLast month Biden apparently made a gaffe about distinguishing an invasion from a “minor incursion”. Perhaps it wasn’t a gaffe after all? In any event it was clearly something that had been discussed.
February 21, 2022 at 4:58 pm #226754Anonymous
InactiveAljazeera and RT correspondents don’t see Biden making any concessions.
February 21, 2022 at 5:23 pm #226755Anonymous
InactiveRT is an alarmist and conspiracionist newspaper and the participants are just a bunch of conspiracionists who believe in the concept that one single country is imperialist, most of them are anti yankeeist but they are not anti capitalists and they support Putin
February 21, 2022 at 5:25 pm #226756Anonymous
InactiveSometimes ICC make good analysis and much better than WSWS
February 21, 2022 at 5:28 pm #226757alanjjohnstone
KeymasterAll the media outlets are now suggesting that Putin is contemplating the formal recognition of the independence of the two breakaway provinces or even their annexation as in the case of Crimea.
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