September 15, 2022 at 4:03 pm #233269
The Guardian still publishing the occasional article critical of Royal Family
Mariann Wang, who represented more than a dozen Epstein survivors, said it was “beyond shameful to see Andrew being granted any form of state-sponsored honor or privilege, given his past affiliation with Jeffrey Epstein”.
Aurore DeCarlo, senior partner at the law firm CA Goldberg, “The media images of Prince Andrew being adored and sympathized with can certainly give the impression that all has been forgiven, despite lasting pain and damage still lying in his wake.September 17, 2022 at 1:09 am #233325
The notion of the royal family as symbols of duty or sacrifice to the nation is “a lie” and is at the centre of a deeply unequal UK, Clive Lewis, the Norwich South MP and former shadow cabinet minister has argued, breaching Keir Starmer’s order to his party to stay silent before the Queen’s funeral on Monday.September 17, 2022 at 9:25 am #233330
Wait time to gawk at an oak box passes 24 hours
And other ways to spend the bank holidaySeptember 17, 2022 at 1:42 pm #233339
I find the whole carnival of this feudal relic’s coffin on display quite bizarre, macabre and grotesque. What the hell is it all about? And what does it say about a society that thinks this spectacle is OK, when those people slavishly participating would certainly not do the same to protect their own interests regarding the cost of living crisis, or dare I say, to usher in a totally new kind of society?September 17, 2022 at 1:55 pm #233340DJPParticipant
“What the hell is it all about?”
It’s an exercise in state and national identity building. On the surface quite a successful one it would seem. But, at a guess, I would have thought most of the population isn’t really that bothered.
September 17, 2022 at 5:19 pm #233344
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“On the surface quite a successful one it would seem quite successful. But, at a guess, I would have thought most of the population isn’t really that bothered.”
Which is it? If “it’s an exercise in state and national building” then it would appear very successful and contrary to your second assertion, seeing that a large section of the population is engrossed in the whole charade.
For example:September 17, 2022 at 6:02 pm #233345
Dundee United (formerly Dundee Hibernian) fans show their dissentSeptember 17, 2022 at 6:50 pm #233347ALBKeymaster
Obviously playing the British “national” anthem was a provocation to supporters of an Irish Catholic football club (as it would be a crowd of socialists) but the reaction is a reminder that opposition to the British monarchy is not necessarily progressive. In this case it was an expression of support for Irish Republicanism, to which socialists are as opposed to as to British monarchism. Still, I suppose it is encouraging that even after a hundred years the British state hasn’t been able to brainwash all its subjects.September 18, 2022 at 3:06 am #233359
Worth a read, Craig Murray and worth a watch, a spoof videoSeptember 18, 2022 at 7:57 am #233363J SurmanParticipant
For what it’s worth here’s comment from an Indian. No doubt the majority of citizens of former colonies would agree with her. Unfortunately I don’t suppose they are getting a voice on mainstream media.September 18, 2022 at 9:09 am #233364
100 employees at Shaoxing Chuangdong Tour Articles Co. set aside other work and put in 14-hour days starting at 7:30 a.m. making nothing but British-themed flags.
They turned out at least 500,000 the first weekSeptember 18, 2022 at 9:17 am #233365DJPParticipant
Lizzie45: “Which is it?”. Probably a bit of both. Mathematically speaking it’s possible that “a large section of the population is engrossed in the whole charade” while the majority of the population is not that bothered about it.
Looking at some YouGov surveys it looks like support for the monarchy is falling year on year. It looks like the trend for is starting to head towards the 50/50 level.September 18, 2022 at 12:39 pm #233366
Celtic supporters again express their anti-royalismSeptember 18, 2022 at 1:08 pm #233367ALBKeymaster
So you can see the other prejudice, here’s the only amusing Ulster Protestant anti-Catholic song:September 21, 2022 at 11:23 pm #233453
An estimated 28 million people in this country alone were glued to their televisions watching the funeral of this elderly nonentity.
Not forgetting the outpouring of grief following her demise.
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