Post capitalism video
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I’ve come across more videos by “LuckyBlackCat” which judging from the name suggests she might be more of an anarchist or anarcho-communist. At any rate, she seems to be someone definitely worth contacting. Im wondering whether we might ask her if she is OK about using some of her videos on our website. Is this something the AV committee could do?
Anyway here´s another video of hers
Here’s the YouTube channel. I expect they do it for a living so might not be inclined to let us use it for free, but we can of course publicise it (the first one). Interesting that she calls it “socialism” and not “Anarcho-communism”. Obviously we favour project B (project A is socialism with non-circulating labour time vouchers).
This channel has been around for years. Not sure if it gets enough traffic to be a full time job or not. There are lots of people similar on YouTube – jokingly they call this anarchist communism ish section “BreadTube”. Some others are Zoe Baker, Paul Raekstad. See who they follow to find more.
You guys should be making your own versions of things like this. Not relying on people you don’t agree with. As far as I know there is no AV committee?
Well all her videos are freely accessible so I don’t think it would be a case of her obtaining a living from the videos per se. I think she is part of the Patreon set-up and sort of relies on donations via Paypal so actually she is more likely to be inclined to favour us publishing it on the website for that reason.
I haven’t seen the entire video but so far it looks good to me. Im quite impressed with her style I have to say.
“Well all her videos are freely accessible so I don’t think it would be a case of her obtaining a living from the videos per se.”
I don’t know if you know this already or not, but if your videos get enough views YouTube pays a share of it’s advertising revenue to the content creators. There’s probably at a guess tens of thousands of people who earn a living that way.
I don’t think the party should simply be “publishing this on the website” though, at least not without passing comment.
Why not make a feature and talk with some “BreadTube” creators about their experiences making socialist-ish content? That would help reach out to other, and larger, audiences.
I don’t know if you know this already or not, but if your videos get enough views YouTube pays a share of it’s advertising revenue to the content creators. There’s probably at a guess tens of thousands of people who earn a living that way.
I am not that familiar with the set-up but this surely would be all the more reason why someone like this person would want us to publicise her videos. It would broaden the audience and therefore increase the number of visits to her site. She benefits from that and I have no problems with that at all. In a sense we would be helping each other.
I don’t think the party should simply be “publishing this on the website” though, at least not without passing comment.
Why not make a feature and talk with some “BreadTube” creators about their experiences making socialist-ish content? That would help reach out to other, and larger, audiences.
Well, if the video is making exactly the same case as us, and especially if it is making the case in a manner that is effective and interesting, I cannot see any reason why the party should not advertise it. What is there to lose? After all the party website does feature books written by non-members so why not videos? In fact there is all the more reason to do so since a video is immediately accessible and free of charge. Much more use should be made of videos in my opinion
I don’t disagree with your last point but there has always been a problem in the Party with getting more comrades actively involved. It strikes me as being an effective use of resources that if there is already a video out there that is saying more or less what we are saying that we should make use of it.
Sure, we can make a comment or two introducing the video. For example, as Adam has noted the postcapitalism video offers 2 alternative versions of a post-capitalist society – the one involving labour vouchers and the other free access. We could simply comment that we favour the latter option and maybe supply a link to an article on the SPGB website where we criticise labour vouchers.
It’s all very do-able in my opinion
Robbo203 wrote:
“. . . I cannot see any reason why the party should not advertise it.”
Maybe an alternative is for it to be reviewed in the Standard?
There’s an argument to be made that there should be expanded review section in the Standard that would cover the review of podcasts and video essays from YouTube and elsewhere.
Maybe an alternative is for it to be reviewed in the Standard?
Or maybe both? It would be good to beef up the videos on this website
Yes, there is a (new) AV and they know about it. Someone said it lasts for more than 2 hours. I only watched so far to the brief description of projects A and B. Have you got to the end? In fact will anybody?
TBH I”m still not sure why that Lucky Black Cat video is supposed to be special. The idea that a fully communist society would be one without markets is commonplace amongst people concerned with that type of thing.
For example here’s another YouTuber who talks about such things:
Perhaps this could have gone in another thread but posting this video to show the importance of YouTube in the contemporary media age. If it’s any consolation all of the political parties are making poor use of it. Individuals making videos in a shed manage to get far more reach.
Someone said it lasts for more than 2 hours. I only watched so far to the brief description of projects A and B. Have you got to the end? In fact will anybody?
Well, I have just finished looking at the video. It’s long and I had to do it in two sittings. There is certainly a lot of useful material in there – quite thought-provoking, in fact. She is certainly an effective communicator though some people might find her wacky sense of humour a bit OTT. I didn’t mind it that much though there were one or two times when she engaged in it for a bit too long
In the end, she came out with 3 actual alternatives, the third one a derivation from the first
1) NTC socialism (non-transferable currency)
2) Free access communism
3) UFI socialism (universal full income)No 3 shares with no 2 the fact that labour is completely voluntary and uncoerced in the sense that you still get access to goods even if you choose not to work but each individual is allocated spending points which are non transferable (as with NTC socialism).
She gave a pretty decent rundown of the reasons why free-access communism could work and I particularly enjoyed this part of the video. We would have criticisms of the the NTC socialism model obviously and she did touch on some of these.
She ended with a discussion of various forms of participatory planning – such as in Kerala and in Spain during the civil war. One could easily imagine some aspects of these being adopted in a socialist society.
All in all I thought it was very good video and certainly, I learnt some things from it. I would certainly recommend featuring it on our website but with a short intro from us on where we disagree with some of the ideas – notably NTC socialism – with a link to articles on our website
TBH I”m still not sure why that Lucky Black Cat video is supposed to be special. The idea that a fully communist society would be one without markets is commonplace amongst people concerned with that type of thing.
DJP, I am not saying her video is unique or special and in fact, if there are others talking about the same thing and in much the same vein I would urge that these too be featured on our website. I haven’t seen the one you linked to and will check it out. I have to say I do like the Lucky Black Cat video for the style of delivery and its wit….
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