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August 4, 2026 at 1:25 am #265172
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ParticipantNot a white Jesus:
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August 4, 2026 at 1:38 am #265174Thomas_More
ParticipantNestorian stele found in China, date 731 CE. (Video restricted)
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August 4, 2026 at 1:56 am #265177Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantJesus 3000 years before Christ
African Egyptian mythology
August 4, 2026 at 4:02 am #265178Thomas_More
ParticipantThe myths in question could indeed have been used by gospel writers in their fabrication of the Jesus story, just as they used the life of the Buddha to produce Balaam and Jehosaphat. But adapting myths to use for their stories is NOT the same as saying Christianity started in Egypt 3000 years earlier. That is preposterous.
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August 4, 2026 at 4:12 am #265180Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantA conspiracy theory with archaeological evidence? That is what the catholic and Evangelical churches have propagated, those evidences destroy their 2000-year business. There was a journalist in Italy who was taken to jail, and he received a lawsuit from the Vatican because he published similar evidences
August 4, 2026 at 4:18 am #265181Thomas_More
ParticipantEvidences that Christians made use of ancient nyths about Osiris and Horus in creating the Jesus story? That is NOT evidence of Christianity in Egypt 3000 years before!
If you think that, then you are negating Kautsky’s materialist study of Christian origins in the social and economic landscape of the Roman Empire.August 4, 2026 at 4:21 am #265182Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantA conspiracy theory with archaeological evidence? That is what the catholic and Evangelical churches have propagated, those evidences destroy their 2000-year business. There was a journalist in Italy who was taken to jail, and he received a lawsuit from the Vatican because he published similar evidences
They have also said that this narrative about the exodus is a conspiracy theory; they have proven mathematically that the exodus never existed, there were not nature resources in that area to feed more than 2 million people, and there are not evidences that they buried almost one million people in the desert. The real history is that the Hebrews always lived as a tribe in Canaan. The Egyptians did not lose a large number of workers, as they have mentioned, due to the exodus of slaves
The bible said that god gave them quails to feed them in the desert, and nobody have found any bones in the sands,. They have found bones of pigs
Archaeologists have proven that the so-called Ten Commandments existed 1500 years before the ones given to Moses, which is also a false narrative because Moses never existed; theologians have said that those discoveries are conspiracy theories
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August 4, 2026 at 4:29 am #265184Thomas_More
ParticipantI know there was no exodus, no large Hebrew population in Egypt, no slavery, no Moses, etc. Had they crossed the Red Sea, they would still have been in Egyptian territory. The Old Testament “history” before Ezra is all made up – and it was made up by the Jewish monotheist intelligentsia returning from Babylonian exile in the time of Cyrus.
August 4, 2026 at 6:00 pm #265188Thomas_More
ParticipantChristian “communists” forebears of socialists, or forebears of Stalin? (Or Jim Jones?)
Ananias and Sapphira sold some property and brought the bulk of the proceeds to give to the church. They kept some of their own money for their own sustenance. Peter challenged them on this, and both of them were done to death and speedily buried.
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August 5, 2026 at 12:56 am #265193Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantI know that you have not read the book; it does not say that Christianity was started in Egypt; it says that the myth of a messiah was taken from Africa and especially from Egypt, and it was transformed into Christianity ( which should be called Jesuism), which was also established in Rome. The problem is that you are negating the contribution made by Africa to world history; even more, Africa was the cradle of civilisation. Mathematics, Physics, medicine, Architecture, and agronomy were born in Africa. The ethnological notebooks of Karl Marx cover Africa, Asia and other parts of the world besides Europe, and Marx and Engels wrote extensively on Colonialism
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August 5, 2026 at 1:37 am #265195Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantAnother biblical lie is the Jericho walls; there were no walls at that time that the Bible mentioned, and they were destroyed by the Israelite; it was a poor neighbourhood., the modern archeolgy made profound research digging deeper than other arqueochologist who had religious point of views, and they did not find any evidences Ironically, they had received the Ten Commandments from Moses, but one of its clauses says: You shall not kill, but according to the narrative, more than 12,000 peoples were killed and several cities were burned down
August 5, 2026 at 2:45 am #265196Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantAnother discrepancy found by modern archaeology is that the so-called golden age of King David and King Solomon did not exist; it is an exaggeration to fulfil a so-called promise made by the god of Israel of a chosen people living in prosperity; they were poor people like many peoples that existed in that time.
Many books found in the bible ( including the Torah ) were ordered to be written and compiled by King Josiah, who was the king of a small locality, and to provide hope to a group of tribes. They were written by different theological schools of that time; the first books of the bible were not written by Moses, and a dead person can describe his own death
It was not an empire as the bible has mentioned. The really big empires were the Assyrian, the Babylonian and the Egyptian empires. Jerusalem was not a place of one religion and one god; there were several religions and several gods
August 5, 2026 at 4:06 am #265197Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantThe ten tribes never got lost; it’s just another biblical lie invented by the writers of the Bible. They stayed in the same place.
The Assyrians defeated the kingdom of the north, but did not invade the kingdom of the south, which was Judah and then Samaria. It was less powerful, and it was not so important for the Assyrians. The kingdom of the north had more resources.
The narrative to cover the defeat was by saying that the god of Israel used the Assyrians to punish them for their sins, showing that both kingdoms were in dispute. In that time, the idea was that a military victory was the victory of a god; therefore, the god of the Assyrians defeated the god of the Israelite, showing that their god was not as powerful as it was mentioned in the Bible.
The whole bible and the Torah are based on mythologies and legends, but archaeological discoveries are showing the real historical facts
August 5, 2026 at 7:52 am #265198Thomas_More
Participant” I know that you have not read the book; it does not say that Christianity was started in Egypt; it says that the myth of a messiah was taken from Africa and especially from Egypt, and it was transformed into Christianity ( which should be called Jesuism), which was also established in Rome.”
No problem there. But I’ve agreed with that in numerous messages.
August 5, 2026 at 7:55 am #265199Thomas_More
Participant” The problem is that you are negating the contribution made by Africa to world history; even more, Africa was the cradle of civilisation. ”
I do not deny that at all. Where do you get that idea? I have never denied that.
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