Jeremy Corbyn to be elected Labour Leader?
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July 16, 2015 at 7:33 pm #83881
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KeymasterApparently, he's now the favourite:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jez-can-jeremy-corbyn-on-6072570
I wonder what would happen if he was elected, not that I suppose he really wants to, but it could happen by accident if supporters of the other three candidates all give their second preference votes to him in a bid to do down their rivals.
In any event, even a big vote for him must have some significance, whatever it is.
July 17, 2015 at 8:30 am #112440Young Master Smeet
ModeratorWell, he seems to now be leading the constituency nominations, which given the four way split on first preferences, means he's transferring well…My guess is that far from purging the party, as some noises have been saying, he'd work to conciliate and end up a figurehead, possibly even leave the deputy to run the party while he takes up full time campaigning? It wouldn't be earth shattering, maybe earth wobbling..
July 17, 2015 at 1:57 pm #112441imposs1904
ParticipantWe've been here before. A good article by 'Ivan' on Michael Foot from January 1990:http://socialiststandardmyspace.blogspot.com/2015/07/left-foot-right-foot-1990.html
July 18, 2015 at 12:10 am #112442alanjjohnstone
KeymasterQuack economics and quack health policies, too, it seems. Corbyn supports homeopathy and its financing by the NHShttp://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/07/16/belief-in-homeopathy-is-a-moral-test
July 18, 2015 at 6:28 am #112443ALB
KeymasterThat's a bit disturbing and reflects badly on him. But more disturbing is that the current Cabinet Minister responsible for the NHS also believes in this nonsense:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-signed-parliamentary-motion-in-support-of-homeopathy-in-2010-10393413.htmlI suspect this is part of a campaign to descredit Corbyn. I wonder what else they'll come up with.It is true that homeopathy works for some people as he tweeted, but not for the reasons given by the quacks and distilled water salesmen behind it. All sorts of things can work because of the placebo effect. But at least the distilled water homeopathy recommends can't do you any harm (unless it prevents you going to a proper doctor if it turns out that there's something seriously wrong with your health).
July 19, 2015 at 1:37 am #112444alanjjohnstone
KeymasterAccording to this Independent article, the knives are already being sharpened to stab Corbyn in the back if he is electedhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/jeremy-corbyn-labour-mps-are-plotting-a-coup-against-the-potential-leader-if-he-is-elected-10399272.htmlBut he will have the SNP support.
July 20, 2015 at 1:44 am #112445james19
ParticipantDOMINIC LAWSON: Comrade Corbyn's biggest problem? He never smiles! (Even though his Marxist views are such a joke) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3167644/DOMINIC-LAWSON-Comrade-Corbyn-s-biggest-problem-never-smiles-Marxist-views-joke.html#ixzz3gOM9MPX4
July 20, 2015 at 7:50 am #112446jondwhite
ParticipantI noticed Corbyn never smiles too!
July 20, 2015 at 8:04 am #112447July 20, 2015 at 9:13 am #112448ALB
KeymasterQuote:DOMINIC LAWSON: Comrade Corbyn's biggest problem? He never smiles! (Even though his Marxist views are such a joke)So now he's a Marxist and a Trotskyist. Leaving aside the contradiction between being both, is there any evidence for either? I imagine the Daily Wail is just making up the "Marxist" one as that's what they call anyone who is "anti-business" even describing Ed Miliband as one for saying he wanted to freeze energt prices for a year or so. I can see too that a Labour MP might see Trotskyists under every bed, but was Corbyn ever in a Trotskyist group? I know they say his brother was in the IMG in the 1970s, but so what? My brother was once in the Labour Party but that doesn't make me a Labourite..
July 20, 2015 at 9:14 am #112449jondwhite
ParticipantA recent issue of Solidarity implied he worked with AWL and Morning Star (just writing for them) but not actually in any Trot group. Seems a bit rich for the other candidates to say the candidate longest serving as a Labour MP doesn't represent Labour.
July 20, 2015 at 1:21 pm #112450ALB
KeymasterThey were handing out "Jeremy Corbyn for Labour Leader" leaflets at the Lambeth Country Fair yesterday. Here's what it says on the front:
Quote:Together We CanBuild A Fairer BritainHelp create a more equal society by voting for a principled Labour leader, committed to opposing austerity, protecting our environment, promoting,peace and investing in our future.There are plenty of thing's wrong with this.1. It's assuming that a Leader of the Labour Party could commit the party to trying to do all this.2. It's encouraging the idea of Leaders and Leadership.3. It's assuming that "opposing austerity" is an action that has some chance of success in capitalism in a slump (have they not heard of Greece?).On the back it talks about addressing
Quote:Britain's wealth divide, building an economy which works for the many not the few.as if capitalism could be reformed so as to "work for the many". You'd have thought that by now Labour activists would have learned that this can't be done. But this reformist illusion/delusion lives on.
July 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm #112451Young Master Smeet
ModeratorAnyone at tolpuddle for this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ8nO1n1YVg&feature=youtu.be(Jeremy Corbyn MP Speaks at Tolpuddle Festival 2015)
July 20, 2015 at 3:30 pm #112452stuartw2112
ParticipantSo, no one else here joining up in order to vote Corbyn? Surely you're all secretly hoping he wins? Either because you agree with the Tories that it'll destroy Labour (and good riddance), or because you think there's some hope for the reemergence of some kind of party of labour?
July 20, 2015 at 3:34 pm #112453stuartw2112
ParticipantAfter all, it is a proletarian party:http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/understanding-jeremy-corbyns-support.html
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