Facism Is coming to USA…
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I would like the members or participants in this forum to be able to argue the opposite, since many people are seeing this possibility, and I would like someone with historical knowledge to explain it — because I think that nothing Trump is doing is really new since he first took office, only that he is now doing it openly…
Should we be worried?
World socialism Web site thinking is going to happen it…
WSWS is obsessed with Fascism, which does not exist any more. It’s an emotive word that the Leninist Left always toss around.
I am more worried by Trump being in the hands of Washington’s and Europe’s NeoCon warmongers who want WW3.
This is a better definition of what fascism really was.
It is a form, or a management style, adapted by capitalism in Italy and Germany, but those Leninist groups of all stripes think that fascism is something that can be installed by a leader, or that war is the only characteristic that distinguishes fascism; the main characteristic is extreme nationalism.
The main problem of our world is not fascism, and it was not before, WW2, during WW2 and after the war, and it is not now either, because it does not exist. The real problem is capitalism; they call themselves socialists, but their struggle is not against capitalism but toward reformism.
They think that by removing a leader, the problems can be resolved, and leaders are being removed all the time, and capitalism has not been replaced, yet.t
Capitalist wars and authoritarian governments existed before fascism and nazism, and several of them were supported by the Soviet Union and the Leninists. And most Leninists and the so-called anti fascists figures supported the dictatorship of one single party and state capitalism, and they also provided economic and political support to Nazism.
There are authoritarian governments around the world, but they are not fascists, and some authoritarian governments have been replaced through the election system.
The main obsession is because authoritarian groups are right-wingers, but leftwing groups and government are authoritarians too, and they have also been replaced by workers.
The Neo nazis in the USA are small groups of poor workers who can not even pay their rent, and most of them live in poverty, and they are minor groups who do not even know the history of real fascism and nazism.
The real Nazis had a lot of economic power, scientific knowledge and their system produced great benefits for the German, British, French and US capitalist class, and they also wanted to expand themselves like the other capitalist blocs, and that was the main objective of the war against them, and the pretext was the fight against Nazism .
The soviet union wanted to be part of the Axis along with Germany, Italy, and Japan, and the orthodox church supported the soviet government . Later, they aligned themselves with the Allies,
There is a new election tactic known as post fascism invented by the South American leftists, and the same anti fascist made alliances with the right wingers
Thank you all very much, because I agree with you that what we have to eradicate is global capitalism, and if we call ourselves socialists, it means fighting for socialism.
Trump is the symptom, not the disease!
Thank you!Anti-Fascists recently blocked a peace march in Germany. Anti-Fascists also hijack workers’ and trades union demonstrations, provoking the police.
The European heads of state who are warmongering against Russia are supported by Anti-Fascists and some of these have joined the Ukrainian army. (Paradoxically, because Putinists throw the name “Nazi” at the Ukrainians).
The rightwingers in Europe who are anti-war are called “fascists.”
A journalist wrote that fascism comes in two forms: Fascism and Anti fascism, and they are as violent as the fascists.
In Argentina and Chile, the workers who do not support the left-wingers are called poor fascists
In Capitalist developed countries with limited bourgeois democracy, like the US, Germany, France, and England, it would be very difficult to establish a personal dictatorship. Trump was not only elected by White people; thousands of Latinos, African Americans, Asians, and Arabs voted for him
Antifascists are fascists in that they oppose free speech and wish to silence those of another opinion.
No wonder they are on both sides of the front line in Ukraine.Antifascists are fascists in that they oppose free speech and wish to silence those of another opinion.
No wonder they are on both sides of the front line in Ukraine.——————————
Both sides are calling each other fascists. An authoritarian oligarch and criminal leader like Putin, a former colonel of the KGB, calls fascists all his opponents. Like Stalin used to call everybody a fascist, and his followers still call everybody a fascist. All those conspiracy journalists of our time see fascism all over the earth. I have read them using the term ecological fascism. Nobody is saying that the real cause of our problem is capitalism; they think that the best solution is to replace leaders
I think that in the United States it happened when the liberals and the so-called left focused only on attacking Bush Jr. instead of raising awareness among the workers that the problem is capitalism. Then came Obama, doing the same but more subtly. As a leader in Puerto Rico said, what we have to change is not the rider, but the horse….
A worker said the same thing in this article:
https://en.internationalism.org/icconline/2008/apr/castro-quits
It’s far too sweeping to say that anti-Fascists are Fascists ‘in that they oppose free speech and wish to silence those of another opinion.’ Some may do, but most don’t. I consider myself an anti-Fascist (as well as a socialist) and I don’t. And as for the comment about Ukraine, well that’s the old hard on for Putin who, if anyone’s a Fascist, he is.
There is no fascism, and there are no fascists; therefore, the struggle against fascism is only an illusion, as well as the struggle against communism is also an illusion, because it has never existed
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