Cost of living crisis

April 2024 Forums General discussion Cost of living crisis

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  • #241725
    robbo203
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    More good news on the cost of living front. My energy bill for the month ending 22 March 2023 would have come to a staggering £307.72 had it not been for government handouts which some of you would rather hand back.

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    From where did you get this daft idea, Lizzie, that we socialists would rather “hand back” government handouts on principle than accept them? For all your acid comments about the SPGB you don’t seem to know much about us, do you?

    Honestly, you sound more like a Tory praising the actions of the Tory government. Do you really think these are going to make much difference to your way of life and standard of living as an exploited proletarian?

    #241737
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Do you really think these are going to make much difference to your way of life and standard of living as an exploited proletarian?

    Well, actually no, but they’ve certainly helped me and many thousands of proles in the here and now.

    #241752
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Then we seem to be agreed on this particular point.

    #241758
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I refuse nothing but blows.

    But I also decline to express my gratitude and offer any reward.

    #241884
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Last year, Andrew Bailey, the Governor of the Bank of England, called on workers to exercise self-restraint over wage demands so as not to cause inflation to get established. Last week he called on businesses to exercise self-restraint on price increases for the same reason.

    Neither workers nor businesses are taking any notice. In today’s Times, it’s Financial Editor, Patrick Hosking, explains why business won’t be any more than workers:

    “Surely, when first introduced to an economics textbook, Bailey learnt that firms are not driven by altruism or patriotism but by market forces and profit? They will charge what the market will bear (…) While modern-day corporations have to consider many stakeholders, they still see their primary duty over the long run to maximise profits for the shareholders.”

    There you have it.

    Explaining what “charge what the market will bear” means, Hoskins adds:

    “Until businesses see more capitulation by their customers, the price escalation will go on. Business will stop lifting their prices only if enough customers defect to competitors, trade down to cheaper lines or find near-substitutes. Or stop buying at all. For the poorest households, this has happened already.”

    Nice system capitalism, isn’t it?

    #241903
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Nice system capitalism, isn’t it?

    Yup, but it’s the only game in town.

    #241904
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Millions of households are set to receive cost of living payments in the next two months.

    The government has announced households receiving means-tested benefits will get these payments in three instalments.

    The first payment of £301 will be made in spring, followed by the second payment of £300 in autumn and the final payment of £299 will be given in the spring of 2024 – totalling up to £900.

    Households will receive the first payment between 25 April and 17 May.

    https://news.sky.com/story/dates-revealed-for-when-millions-will-receive-cost-of-living-payments-12843397

    #241911
    Ozymandias
    Participant

    What a pathetic slave you are. You fuckin arsehole.

    7. You are free to express your views candidly and forcefully provided you remain civil. Do not use the forums to send abuse, threats, personal insults or attacks, or purposely inflammatory remarks (trolling). Do not respond to such messages.

    #241961
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Oh, what a naughty boy you are, Raymond. Go and wash your mouth out with soap and water.

    #241971
    chelmsford
    Participant

    I am NOT Spartacus! I am NOT Spartacus! It’s that bloke over there. Kirk Douglas.

    #241989
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The socialist party should turn the internal forum into private forum like the WSPUS, if some members want to keep their names to be anonymous, or clandestine, it is their personal decision. in the middle of the class struggles I have seen many members of others organizations being killed by denunciations made by lumpen, and by anticommunists. If Chelmsford wants his name to be private that is his private decision. There was a member of this party who received death threat from right wingers, we should pay attention to the class struggle, and the class struggles is dangerous. specially when you are a member of socialist groups

    #242001
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Something else, Lizzie, for you whoopee about. British Gas have just sent me an email to say they have a charity to help people in difficulty because they can’t keep up with paying their energy bills. You might be eligible since you don’t have to be a British Gas customers. Let us know if they agree to throw you a few coppers.

    https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/british-gas-energy-trust.html?cid=dplk_BGET

    Incidentally, Movimento, not all those here are Socialists — this forum is mainly to discuss or be read by with those who aren’t yet — and we do have a forum just for Socialist Party members.

    #242006
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    The fact that some contributors to this forum (and others) do so through pseudonyms is generally due to the fact that they do not want to have the real names put on the internet due to possible difficulties that may involve.

    The legislation on online guidance on harassment states that “For harassment to be committed, there must have been a clear ‘course of conduct’. That is, two or more related occurrences. The messages do not necessarily have to be violent in nature, but would need to have caused some alarm or distress.”

    I would say that putting people’s real names on the internet would cause alarm or distress to someone who had clearly used a pseudonym so as not to put their name on the internet. This is not the first time that this behaviour has occured and it would be reasonable, considering the previous nature of the postings, that the intention of posting those names was to cause alarm and or distress (mens rea and actus reus)

    Just a thought

    #242013
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    Something else, Lizzie, for you whoopee about. British Gas have just sent me an email to say they have a charity to help people in difficulty because they can’t keep up with paying their energy bills. You might be eligible since you don’t have to be a British Gas customers. Let us know if they agree to throw you a few coppers.

    https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/british-gas-energy-trust.html?cid=dplk_BGET

    How very kind and considerate of you to provide that link, Adam. (hope you don’t object to being addressed by your given name – so much more friendly and informal than ridiculous pseudonyms).

    However, I’m unlikely to be eligible as I’m not ‘in difficulty’, due in part to the numerous handouts I and many thousands of others have already received and continue to receive.

    #242014
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have been in the working class movement for several decades, and I started during the difficult time when being a socialist/communist was a capital sin, and we were not seating on a rocking chair, we were actives

    I have seen many traitors, lumpen and capitalists ass kisser in this movement and they are dangerous, and they are as dangerous as the capitalists and the state and its repressive forces

    Some of those ass kissers got what they deserved, that is reason why many peoples took different names, up to know there are peoples that I do not know their real name, and I do not care about that, it is not my problem, and I respect their personal decision, they were aware of the class struggle

    I do care about those that like to denounce others peoples and those are the dangerous ones, and like the old days I consider them as my own fucking enemies.

    The internet committee should look into several issues that are taking place around here, this is the forum of a socialist party, it is not a social or liberal club

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