Cost of living crisis
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May 14, 2023 at 8:06 pm #243394AnonymousInactive
That Wikipedia entry says that
“the ‘bullion controversy’ gave him fame in the economic community for his theory on inflation in 19th-century England. This theory became known as monetarism, the theory that excess currency leads to inflation.”
I thought that entries in Wikipedia were checked and double checked. Apparently not in this case. Ricardo had nothing to say about inflation in 19th century England. First, he died in 1823. Second, there was no inflation in 19th century
Britain:
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That is one of the reason why some peoples call Wikipedia the blackboard. In the old days peoples who studied Legal research were motivated to use the legal library and shepardizing ( To double check the validity of a citation and rules )May 19, 2023 at 10:28 am #243429chelmsfordParticipantThe letter in the latest Weekly Worker from Arthur Bough demolishes (not for the first time) Michael Robert’s argument.
The SPGB line on inflation is vindicated (by a CPGBer).
Never doubted it for a moment.May 19, 2023 at 3:35 pm #243431ALBKeymasterArthur Bough’s letter can be found here:
https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1443/letters/
He is right that, due to increasing productivity, prices should be falling rather than rising. So why are they continually rising?
The government itself (in fact the G7 and those who slogans with them) openly says that it aims for prices to rise at around 2 percent a year. The only way thus can be engineered is through inflating the money supply. What other way could there be?
What people are complaining about at the moment is not that prices are riding but that the rate at which they are has increased so much. But since much of this is due to supply factors there is not much that governments and central banks can do about it; just wait till this sorts itself out.
May 28, 2023 at 7:56 pm #243593ALBKeymasterAnother move in the only game in town:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65736944.amp
Note the political ignorance of the Labour spokesperson. It wasn’t just Tory PM Heath who introduced price controls. He was merely pursuing the policy of the preceding Wilson Labour government which even imposed (or tried to) a freeze on the price of labour-power.
It won’t work anyway. One reason why the price of basic necessities like bread and milk has gone up is that, with the rise in the cost of living, people are cutting back on less essential things to buy them, so maintaining the paying demand for them and allowing the supermarkets to put up the price of them.
You can’t beat the economic laws of capitalism.
August 22, 2023 at 7:30 am #246109ALBKeymasterLooks as if the strikes and threats of strikes have just about managed to keep up with the rising cost of living even if with a lag:
https://www.lrd.org.uk/payline/pay-bargaining-news
Trade union action has its uses, to defend living standards or to slow down them getting worse but is clearly not enough.
To escape from having to run faster to try to stand still the whole wages system — the buying and selling of people’s ability to work — has to go and be replaced by socialism, the common ownership and democratic control of productive resorces so they can be geared to turning out what people need, distributed in accodance with the principle of “from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs”.
August 24, 2023 at 8:13 pm #246257AnonymousInactivehttps://www.cnn.com/2022/01/18/economy/price-controls-inflation/index.html
That only game in town has been tried before, and it has been tried in several ‘third world’ countries, and it has not worked either The logic of capitalism always prevails. Some dictators and authoritarian governments have used it in order to pacify the wage slaves and it did not work. In some countries they had to employ hundred of price inspectors and it did not work either
September 14, 2023 at 10:21 am #246822ALBKeymasterUseful reminder that falling “inflation” does not mean falling prices but that prices are rising less rapidly:
“A recent National Institute of Social and Economic Research survey found that only 44 per cent of respondents understood that ‘inflation falling from 10.1 per cent to 6.1 per cent’ would mean prices rising but more slowly. As many as a third thought it meant prices had fallen.”
A reason, no doubt, why people who know from experience that prices are still rising are sceptical when the government claims to be “beating inflation”. But even if the government achieves its stated aim of reducing “inflation” to 2 per cent a year, prices would still be rising.
September 24, 2023 at 12:44 pm #247059Lizzie45BlockedOFGEM have announced a cut in electricity unit rates, but an Energy Price Cap increase for standing charges from October 1.
However, Octopus (my supplier), claims to have the cheapest standing charges of any large supplier, and will not be increasing standing charges from October.
As a consequence of these various actions my annual electricity bill is projected to fall by over £150.
Yay!
September 24, 2023 at 1:18 pm #247060DJPParticipantPerhaps you could also tell us what savings you found in the reductions isle of the supermarket last week?
That would be just as interesting or relevant.
September 24, 2023 at 11:24 pm #247063Lizzie45BlockedPerhaps you could also tell us what savings you found in the reductions isle of the supermarket last week?
I take it English is not your first language; if it were you’d know that isle is another word for an island, especially a small one. I suspect you mean aisle.
Goodness me, far, far too busy to visit a supermarket!; almost everything I need is ordered online and delivered to my moderately salubrious accommodation in the Home Counties. I have, therefore, no occasion to actively search for reductions but it’s always rather pleasant when they occur fortuitously.
September 25, 2023 at 7:36 am #247066Young Master SmeetModerator@Lizzie45 : picking up on spelling errors or language use is a form of personal attack under rule 7, please don’t.
October 12, 2023 at 11:09 am #247554chelmsfordParticipantAll the best to our Lizzie for the forthcoming trip to south america and the antipodes. Glad to hear she has overcome her own cost-of-living crisis!
October 12, 2023 at 12:40 pm #247556Lizzie45BlockedAll the best to our Lizzie for the forthcoming trip to south america and the antipodes. Glad to hear she has overcome her own cost-of-living crisis!
Well, gee thanks, Essex Boy.
Heard from my parents this morning that they’re getting a £500 Winter Fuel Payment and are giving it to me to assist with my ‘extravagant’ tastes while in South America. 🙂
March 15, 2024 at 5:09 pm #251050Lizzie45BlockedNow back in good old Blighty (a rather quaint word which, I find, originates from the Urdu word Vilayati). Fascinating!
And to the wonderful news that Octopus, my energy supplier, will be reducing bills for the typical home by around £238 a year, following OFGEM’s announcement of new Energy Price Cap rates for April 2024.
Yippee!
March 15, 2024 at 7:56 pm #251051DJPParticipant..and I saved £2 when using my Nectar card to buy some kitchen rolls.
So what?
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