Thomas_More
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They would have gone for any scapegoat, but it wasn’t much point in 1930s Germany scapegoating black people or Asians, was it?
In what am I speaking nonsense?
Hitler’s government was able, thanks to a militarization boom, to make jobs and raise living standards.
And what’s your point on Lutheranism? It was reactionary, not bourgeois. It was anti-centralisation.
What the hell is Europe playing at? Determined to drag us all into a war with Russia for the sake of a failed US-Russia proxy war that the US has already abandoned?
Any nationalist the capitalist class chose to employ in Germany then would have offered the workers a scapegoat, and, being central Europe, that scapegoat was certainly going to be the Jews. The developments therefrom would have been the same, even without Hitler.
The Nazis were elected by the workers, and Hitler was working class. The avowedly “anti-capitalist” working class Nazis, such as Röhm &c., who disliked Hitler’s flirting with big business, were anti-semitic too, and the SA had over a million members, all “lumpen” (in the popular sense) proletarians.
So how was the working class not full of anti-semites? The narrative that the Jews “were to blame” was an old narrative, which Hitler, like other nationalists, made use of as a rallying call. Who answers rallying calls? Those they attract!” Trump has done a great favour to mankind by openly showing the real nature of capitalism; they are not advocating for human rights, national sovereignty, or constitutional rights any more, they have practically eliminated the UN clauses.”
But will they not put the mask of legitimacy back on when Trump’s term ends?
Google: “During World War II, the Auschwitz concentration and extermination camp network functioned as a massive site of forced labor and resource exploitation, yielding direct financial and material profit for the Nazi regime and supporting German industrial corporations.”
Auschwitz and Operation Reinhardt were capitalist enterprises, not something external to capitalism.
Not so Nordic.
Landing the job:
Google: Adolf Hitler paid tribute to Gustav Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach, the head of the Krupp industrial empire, during a visit to the Krupp ammunition plant on August 13, 1940. Historical footage from this visit shows Hitler shaking hands with Krupp and interacting with him, acknowledging the crucial role of German industrialists in rearmament.
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Key context regarding Hitler’s relationship with the Krupp family:
Visit to Essen: Hitler visited the Krupp works in Essen, Germany, to pay tribute to Gustav Krupp.
Support for Rearmament: Krupp, along with other German industrialists, was vital to Nazi war efforts, and Hitler relied on them for military production.
70th Birthday: Earlier, on another occasion, Hitler visited Gustav Krupp at his estate near Essen to mark his 70th birthday.
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While Hitler frequently used populist rhetoric during visits to the factory, promising that he stood by the workers, his visits to the owners and industrialists were focused on solidifying the alliance between the Nazi party and industrial power.
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+1You would have to say “If Luther had never been born”, and “If Christianity had never succeeded”, &c. &c …
Let us assume there was no Hitler born. Would the Lutheran princes still have defeated the Emperor, delaying capitalist development in Germany? Would anti-semitism not have still been a centuries-old phenomenon? Would the German principalities still have been united into one Reich? Would WW1 still have been lost? Would the social problems of the 1920s still have existed? The answer has to be yes, and the same horrors of the 1940s would have come about, without Hitler and the Nazi Party, but with someone else and a party with another name. Someone would have had to meet German capitalism’s criteria at the time: a nationalist embodying the frustrations and bigotry of the working class in Germany and moulded by the past. One with the suitable charisma to land him the job.
The anti-semitism of central Europe was born of Christianity in those lands and the turmoil of the 16th century in Germany and Austria. Have you read Luther against the Jews? Julius Streicher couldn’t improve on its vitriol.
In the Balkans the same vitriol was aimed at Eastern rite Christians. SS reps visiting the Ustasha death-camps in Yugoslavia threw up. The Ustasha was not under Germany’s control. This too was rooted in the history of those regions. War necessarily produces supplementary horrors, everywhere.
Anyway, Fascism was not the same as Nazism. They both had nationalism in common, of course.
Without Hitler, similar horrors would have manifested.Genuine philosophy is either materialist or idealist, and I recognise (without agreeing with) an idealist philosopher as long as he has come to his philosophical position by means of thought (though it does not agree with mine, being a materialist) and personal development, and not by obedience to another. Rousseau was not a materialist, but he was a philosopher, not a hack.
