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ParticipantOGW was'nt apparently called a liar, he was. Moreover, quite a lot of posts were made between this "ugly" incident and the thread being locked. So many indeed, that only by clutching at the flimsiest of straws, could one imagine this event in any way led to the thread lockdown.By the way, I'm not interested in perceptions of events, nor opinions of the same. I was there when they happened and do not tally with your claims.As I said on another thread, "don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" Steve
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ParticipantYMS, are you being deliberately disingenuous? I've tried the report button nowt, nee response. Tried to PM admin, if I got a reply, it did not answer by complaint/query, moreover I was told by admin that he did'nt have time for a longer answer! Did not want a longer answer in the first place, just a relevant one, no luck.So sorry if I'm being blunt but stop talking about incidents you have not a scooby about marra. Stick to claiming black is white, and that the pathetic post re the pipe was "on topic" and was in some otherworld reality, funny. Steve.
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Participantpontless posts? you mean like DJP sending a picture of a giant pipe? and this guy is admin, a moderator! just could'nt make it up.
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Participant"It was an attempt at humour to lighten up the situation, but failed and probably besides the point…"You got that right. And clearly you are not banned either, even though you posted the above irrelevance. A case, I think, of Moderator heed thyself, would be appropriate.
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ParticipantI am minded of an old saying, "don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining".Nuff said. Steve.
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ParticipantCan anyone explain what the big pipe, post 44 is all about? Moreover, what has this to do with the thread? It's not the pipesmokers almanac! Steve.
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ParticipantNo, Socialists want one thing! A society whereby the means and instruments for producing what we need, as human beings, to live, is owned and controlled by us all, in the interests of us all. Moreover the raw materials wherefrom this production comes, is similarly owned, by us all.In other words, the world and it's wealth! is the common heritage and, belongs to, and should be used for, everyone that lives on this planet.That is, in essence, the gist of our argument.There are no arguments that can be used to claim, "prior" ownership. Can Capitalists prove their ownership by saying their antecedents existed earlier than other "humans"? no!When the raw materials that is, the fount of all Capitalist production was laid down, mankind had not even crawled from the primeordeal slime. What can we infer from this? We can infer, that the rights and ownership of the same, today, is done on the basis of, "might is right"!Capitalists cannot claim that their anticedents were here, originally, before all others. So what we know, is that they claim these "rights of ownership", merely because of their control of the forces of coercion that exist at present. They use these forces to, in someway, validate their possession and ownership, of the same!It is not historically, nor morally correct. It is a case of, our might gives us these "rights". They "own" now and control the means of communication, to self justify and historically justify, this unjustifiable act of "minority class" possession.The rest of us are merely, (or they would have us believe) merely adjuncts to this. We are not. The Socialist Parties case, proves conclusively, that this is incorrect, in any way they, the elite, try to claim it is. Steve.
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ParticipantCould do with more committed Socialists, full stop. Must apologise for the continued, inclement weather!Be well, get stuck in comrade. Nice to hear from you marra. Steve.
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ParticipantI am standing back, moreover, cogitating where this is leading! The thread is, "Information request on party policy"?What is it? Moreover where is it proscribed? Steve.
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ParticipantGueses on the back of a Penny Black please. Closest answer wins! Steve.
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ParticipantActually Adam, I most vehemently disagree that it is individuals expressing individual views! Some of the comments I have seen on this forum and on spopen, are totally unconscionable, obnoxious, insulting and so beneath what one would expect of "intelligent" people, as to be almost beyond belief. Awful, truly awful. Steve.
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ParticipantDo you really think we need to leave the forum to become eligible for personal attacks? Steve.
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ParticipantWould Steve Coleman be eligible for party membership if, say, as " chair of the Electoral Reform Society’s Independent Commission on Alternative Voting Methods." he actively supported "vote rigging"? Would the act of supporting """vote rigging""", make him an ineligible candidate for membership? Moreover, would anyone found to have engaged in the anti-democratic practice of """vote rigging""" be ineligible for membership? Steve.
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ParticipantHas anyone any proof that Steve in his role as, " chair of the Electoral Reform Society’s Independent Commission on Alternative Voting Methods." tried to implement, """ballot rigging"""? surely this would be the action of a class traitor, just having a "job" however, how can he be called a class traitor for that? Are all workers who have "jobs", class trators? Surely, by the logic, or illogic of some, just being employed would be seen as perpetuating Capitalism.Steve.
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