rodshaw
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Just imagine – workers in a shop decide not to take payment (actually, it happened to me recently, but it was just a paltry sum for a tyre valve replacement).
Then the shop’s supplier decides not to charge the shop – the employees refuse to put the invoices through and their bosses can’t make them. The word spreads.
Eventually someone gets sued, but the court admin clerks decide not to process the lawsuit. Eventually the whole supply chain is moneyless because the workers have decided not to ask for money or pay, and the people implementing the enforcement machinery on a daily basis have decided not to do anything about it. Likewise the police and the army. So the world is running without money and the owners can only look on speechless.
Back door socialism? Can the state just melt away?
One good thing that may come out of this pandemic is more research into ME and associated illnesses, through the number of people who are suffering long-term after-effects. One of my daughters has ME and I know how limiting it can be.
But I won’t hold my breath, this is capitalism after all and any such research isn’t going to be particularly profitable.
“I have had the same problem of what term for African-Americans which i use now, since negro, coloured (and even black sometimes) are no longer PC.”
I have seen “people of colour” being used recently.
You never know, he might come out as a non-believer, like some C of E clerics did a while back.
How about posting him a few Socialist Standards? After all, we did write open letters to David Attenborough and Greta Thunberg…
I don’t really understand some of the UK figures. “The science” is somewhat contradictory. On the one hand for several weeks the graphs have been showing a slight daily increase in new cases, back to around 1,000 now (and the actual number of new cases will be significantly higher, though this isn’t being concealed), but if so how can the magical R number as low as 0.8 to 1?
“What specific measures might be taken do you think?”
It could be argued that the conditions for the spread of a virus like Covid, at least to fatal pandemic proportions, wouldn’t be there in the first place – no overcrowding, general bad health etc. And no encroachment of humans on animal “territory”.
I’m sure there would be an efficient testing and tracing system in place right from the word go, and there would be no trade-off between health considerations and the need to keep business moving. So all that might be needed would be a handful of very localised “lockdowns”.
Any lockdown recommendations would obviously need the agreement of the local population affected but why wouldn’t they?
Hospitals would be much more able to cope right from the start – no shortages of space or PPE etc. At least I would hope so. I would envisage every local community having its own supply of PPE on a pretty much permanent basis.
And then of course there would be no cover-ups as nobody would be trying to cover their backs or have anything to gain from hiding information. Not to mention the lack of competition for who could produce a vacccine that was profitable.
Governments round the world have been following the dictates of profit and opening up too soon. And they know full well that only some people are going to obey the rules. And who can blame them? Messages about the spread of the virus have been mixed to say the least. We do know that now cases are on a gradual rise but I suspect it’s nothing like we might see in winter.
On Saturday night four of us went to a pub for a meal. This was my first time at an eatery since the pandemic started. They were observing the rules in that you had to sanitise your hands, sign in and sit outside because there wasn’t enough room for social distancing inside. But there the precautions ended – the pub’s garden area was pretty crowded and nobody was really keeping any distance, which would have been nigh on impossible. Actually I was pretty scared and my first instinct was to run – especially living as I do in Northampton, which is on the list of potential hotspots.
But how much danger was I really in? Frankly I have no idea. All I keep thinking back to is that a socialist society would in all probability never let a virus get to these proportions, it would be nipped in the bud at source.
It’s one news purveyor taking a dig at another. Is there any news source we can go to which isn’t biased?
At least the BBC doesn’t pepper you with intrusive adverts (though it does spend a lot of time advertising itself).
No doubt most people on this forum have had Jehovah’s Witnesses knocking on the door. Last time a pair came round, for a split second we hit common ground. One of them thrust a leaflet under my nose and the conversation went something like this:
JW: Some people think the world is getting better, some think it’s getting worse and some think it’s about the same. What do you think?
Me: I think the world would be a far better place if we abolished the capitalist system and established a world where all resources are held in common.
JW (glancing at his mate): Well, I think we could go along with that.
Me: Well, you need to join the World Socialist Movement then.
JW: Ah well, we’re Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Me: I also disagree with all forms of religion.
Whereupon they scuttled off.
Ah well, at least whoever edited it down will have heard the full message. We can’t really hope for anything to get through when they cut each contribution down to about 5 seconds.
That’s right, keep the damn foreigners at bay. With all the security checks in place now anyway, it’s been bad enough getting in or out while in the EU.
I don’t get it – aside from it being bad for the general public going on holiday, surely this can’t be good for business travellers either?
“…no country in the world has ever claimed to have established communism.”
Whether they have claimed it themselves or not, they are/were seen as communist in popular eyes, rather than socialist, and in newspaper articles, TV programmes and the like, the word communism rather than socialism is generally equated with repressive state control.
