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Another example of Leftists choosing sides in a capitalist war – this time in support of Russian capitalist imperialism. Why can’t these people, along with those like the ridiculous “Workers Liberty” party that seemingly align themselves with NATO instead, see that the only sensible and principled approach is simply to REFUSE to be drawn into supporting either side.
https://www.struggle-la-lucha.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/04SLL28Feb2022.pdf
Anyone who supports one or other side in this capitalist war automatically forfeits the right to be considered a socialist organisation for this reason alone (let alone the many other reasons one can adduce)
Adam and all
You referred earlier to a circular email you received from the following individual condemning our anti-nationalist approach to the Ukraine war
“Boris Ikhlov, secretary of executive committee of Russia’ Marxist political union “Worker”, 5.3.2022″
Well, purely by accident I came across a very old email dated July 2014 when I was looking for something totally different in my email filing system. Lo and behold in this email the name Boris Ikhlov cropped up.
I copy and paste the main contents as follows:“The informer Boris Ikhlov at work
http://eretik-samizdat.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-informer-boris-ikhlov-at-work.htmlAndrey Karaulov, reclamed by Ikhlov (see below), also was KGB informer: he betrayed Boris Kagarlitsky – B. K. had come to jail because of Karaulov. About that see here (in Russian):
From the samizdat blog, it appears that Ikhlov is associated with the fascist National Bolshevik party in Russia!
Leftist supporters of Ukrainian nationalism and self-determination in the shape of the “Workers’ Liberty” group
QUOTE:
“And who do British leftists, who refuse to back Ukraine, think they are to demand the Ukrainians negotiate with Putin? and even negotiate on the basis of Minsk 2? The Ukrainian government wants to negotiate, and that is its right. Our job is to rally working-class support to help Ukraine fight to defend itself. That is the division now on the UK left.”
I appreciate what you are saying, Drive, but still if you manage to grit your teeth and listen, the guy does make some interesting points such as the one I referred to…
What BTW is the background to all this business about a number of American-funded Biolabs being found in the Ukraine that Galloway refers to? Anyone got more information about this or is Galloway just exaggerating?
Talking of George Galloway, here’s an interesting video of his although, as to be expected, he does not make much in the way of the criticism of the obnoxious Putin regime. He is an effective speaker and it’s a pity his talent is seemingly being used to apologize for that regime.
There is some startling information he presents such as the extent of Zelensky’s personal wealth on coming to power – an indication of the endemic corruption that plagues that country (and Russia too)
Putin’s inner circle
Just received a circular email from Борис (no, not that one) who seems to be a “Marxist” supporter of the Russian invasion. What did you say to him? Sounds as if it might have been a home truth or two.
Adam, I accused him of being a Russian nationalist and offering support for the strategic interests of the capitalist Putin regime rather than siding with the interests of workers, both Russian and Ukrainian, in opposing this senseless capitalist war. The usual SPGB line in other words…
The guy is a complete joke so his insults are like water off a duck’s back to me. I won’t bother responding to him again. There is no reasoning with him. He seems to think I am a “corrupt cattle licking Biden’s ass” (strange metaphor as I struggle to imagine a cow licking someone’s ass) . He can’t seem to get his head around the idea that just because one is opposed to the Putin regime this does not make one pro-Ukraine or pro-West/NATO. As for justifying Putin’s invasion of Ukraine on the grounds of cleansing that country of fascism, he should perhaps look a little closer to home and the fascistic tendencies of the Putin regime itself
Not that either Ukraine or Russia are strictly fascist regimes although they are both corrupt authoritarian capitalist regimes, of course, driven ultimately by the interests of their respective oligarchic classes – our pseudo-Marxist, Boris, being the unwitting tool of one of them!
Another example of divisions amongst the oligarchs over recent developments. Some have apparently turned their backs on Putin. I wonder to what extent there are divisions in the Russian military – particularly among the top brass
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Article on Ukrainian Nazism
If the war turns nuclear, it could possibly start small scale and in a limited way with battlefield nuclear weapons to decisively induce a state of “shock and awe” in the local populace and to counter the relatively bad news for the Russian military thus far as it struggles to overcome entrenched resistance. It has not been the walkover it may perhaps have anticipated. However, things could develop a momentum of their own making it easier to deploy strategic nuclear weapons if the West starts intervening in response. War tends to promote irrationalism after all
I see the American regime has thankfully turned down the crazed idea of the Polish regime to donate all its Soviet-era planes to the Americans to hand over the Ukrainian airforce. What a dumb proposal. How could it not be construed as an act of malicious intent by NATO towards Russia, thereby inviting nuclear retaliation since Russia will not win a conventional war against NATO? These sociopaths in power couldn’t seem to care less for the well-being of ordinary folk. They have got their luxury bunkers they can scurry to in the event of nuclear war
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Do you seriously think our masters are going to allow their earthly playground to be burnt to a cinder? Ffs calm doon man.
I think it is unlikely that they will but one is making an assumption here that they are thinking about this things rationally. If Putin had his back to the wall and facing a humiliating defeat and the possibility of being deposed we cant be 100% sure how he and his regime will react when the red mist descends and people’s judgement gets clouded. There is nothing particularly rational about war anyway even if military strategy requires rational thinking
