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This post from True Scotsman was deleted due to contravening Rule 7 of the forum guidelines
Good. About time too. This individual seems to have no conception of how to debate without viciously insulting his opponent. We all use colorful language but TS crosses the line
“Britain to turn Ukraine into radioactive hell-hole.”
The UK regime is just as bad as the Russian regime or the Ukrainian regime in its callous disregard for working-class lives
“The election of Joe Biden has proven that the problem was not Donald Trump, the problem is capitalism”
Absolutely correct. I wonder where that Trot, who was urging people on this forum to support Biden as the so-called Lesser Evil during the US elections, has disappeared to? Too embarrassed to stick his head above the parapet, I guess. It will be the same with anyone urging us to vote for Starmer in the UK. When is the hard lesson gonna sink in? Supporting the lesser evil only paves the way for the greater evil.
This might be of interest…
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4588677-banking-crisis-primer-for-immediate-action
I don’t know, because it’s a reflection of reality. You know, that thing that’s going on around you? Having only a half dozen brain cells I’m sure the significance of such a thing escapes you.
____________________________lol. For someone who has the nerve to insult other people about having “Having only a half dozen brain cells” – Lizzie where is your self-righteous condemnation of TS and his “repetitive abuse” or is it only the SPGB you’ve got it in for?” – you sure know to miss the point, don’t you?
What I was questioning the relevance of was academic debates about precisely how many combatants on either side of this stupid capitalist war have been killed when the real issue should be how to stop this pointless slaughter from the standpoint of the working class.
You are never going to get an accurate picture anyway. The Ukrainian capitalist state lies. The Russian capitalist state lies. And so too do their respective supporters.
When mainstream American media is finally admitting 100,000 dead Ukrainian troops, you know the real number is double that. So come on you bunch of dumb fucks, tell me how wrong I am about casualty figures!
——————-How is that relevant to what socialists are talking about, eh? You obviously support the death cult that is capitalism but socialists look upon the obscenity of modern warfare and the mass murder of thousands of workers from a completely different standpoint. Not a single drop of working-class blood is worth shedding for the cause of capitalism, let alone the blood of 100,000 workers or whatever the actual figure is that you armchair military strategists like to debate about…
“TS has certainly been the butt of repetitive abuse”
“Pot” and “kettle” are the words that spring to mind there in his – and your- case. And why, anyway, are you jumping to the defense of an authoritarian nationalist supporter of a capitalist warlord and one who gleefully talks of turning fellow workers into “fertilizer”? Are you of like mind perhaps?
“Yeah, that hadn’t escaped my attention TS ”
lol. You’re not very attentive then. A certain supporter of Russian capitalism here has been the butt of some excellent humour – and rightly so – in case you hadn’t noticed
An article by Michael Hudson I came across. He reckons “The crashes of Silvergate, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank and the related bank insolvencies are much more serious than the 2008-09 crash”. We shall see how things turn out…
“Israel is becoming a fascist state” Andrew Feinstein
He is right, of course. The war is a war of inter-imperialist rivalries. All sides in this obscene capitalist conflict need to be firmly opposed. The sooner the better.
https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-says-ukraine-war-fuelled-not-just-by-russian-empire-2023-03-10/
“I ignore Knobbo…”
……………………And one can well understand why TS. Your pathetic and infantile mode of arguing mimics the playground behavior of a school kid who runs around making taunting insults to anyone he takes a dislike to and never hanging around to hear the response.
I have persistently pressed you to justify your claim that Ukraine is a “Nazi regime” with facts and figures but you have repeatedly declined to do so. It’s like you are running scared of any serious debate. There are Nazis on both sides of this conflict but that does not make either of these obnoxious authoritarian regimes, “Nazi”.
And your blanket description of all Ukrainians as Nazis is precisely the kind of dumb generalisation you would expect a fascist in all but name like yourself to make. Dehumanize your fellow workers, all the better to turn them into “fertilizer” (your favourite word)
You’re one sad and sorry excuse for a human being, aren’t you TS? – sitting there in the comfort of your armchair playing silly war games with other peoples` lives….
“At the time they said it was Russia. Now they are revealing that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipeline was organised by some Ukrainian oligarch. I wonder why they are revealing it now.”
On this subject…
“I didn’t want to be rude but how the hell would he know what the Nazi was thinking? The sick ideology of Bandera is the state religion of Ukraine. The Nazis there are real, armed and fanatical.
Not all Germans were Nazis either. Therefore Germany wasn’t Nazi. Lol.”
________________________________________________________Except, of course, that Ukraine doesn’t claim to be a Nazi regime and many Ukrainians actually describe Russia as a fascist regime. That description of Russia has about as much credibility as Putin´s claim about “denazifying” Ukraine. It’s bullshit propaganda from a capitalist warlord trying to justify Russian imperialism by making unwarranted assertions that resonate with Russia´s historical experience of being invaded by Nazi Germany.
I repeat again the point that has been made constantly here – if Ukraine is a Nazi regime then so is Russia, They are very similar in outlook and practice. Both are right-wing, authoritarian oligrachies. Both harbour actual Nazis and in Ukraine´s case the numbers are relatively small and insignificant. Insofar as Bandera is revered in Ukraine it is far more for his ultranationalism than for his fascism.
In this article, it is argued that these small fascist-infested groups like the Azov regiment are being used by the Ukrainian state, not because it endorses the latter´s ideology but because it considers them useful to the cause of Ukrainian nationalism
“Which will be soundly turned into fertilizer as Russia has a 10:1 artillery shell advantage.”
Yeah and while you’re at it, why not throw old folk and children too into the pot/meat grinder/gas chamber or whatever other disgusting metaphor you want to employ? I guess they all make for good fertilizer in your eyes. This is the language of a sociopathic Nazi for whom war is just a game of strategy best viewed from the comfort of an armchair and for whom the lives of workers, deluded though they may be the mental disease of nationalism on both sides, count for nothing.
Talking of Nazis, I can´t help but notice that “True Nazi” as BD calls this individual with good reason, has once again balked at answering my question. So once again, TS, how many actual Nazis do you reckon are on the Ukrainian side and how many are on the Russian side? Hard evidence would be appreciated….
