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ParticipantListen Thankyou all again for these book ideas. I just know what my Da is like with technology. He hasnt even moved into CDs yet with his music system and still plays tapes and LPs so I know he would just leave the kindle in a drawer. I will look into the E Gaitens title and cheers Jondwhite but I think I'll just skip the Owen Jones one. He's that self important little leftist prick who writes for the Guardian. Or am I getting mixed up?
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ParticipantI didn't receive any email notification that I had replies to this thread so Thankyou very much for these reccomendations. I'm guessing he already has the E. P. Thompson as well as "No Mean City". I had forgotten about the Francis Wheen title so I think I'll get it for him. My old man doesn't even have a mobile phone never mind a Kindleso I think that's out of it. I've already bought him Bruce Parry's "Tribe" (book of the series) and a book by Suzanne Romaine entitled "Vanishing Voices" about the gradual extinction of the worlds languages. Adam didn't you recently publish a book? I want to get that for him too. Thanks again cheers R
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Participant"Well…that's life". This is what Trump said on the prospect of a nuclear war in the Far East. The "Working class" deserve all they get. Stupid bastards. Our horrible fuckin species is on a death wish. World Socialism? Forget it!
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Participant"Well it's the System stupid!" But we created the system!!!!!
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Participant"As to human nature etc if you brutalise human beings enough they will tend to become monsters themselves."And who is brutalising human beings? Other human beings…
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Participant"Or your own mother who scrimped and saved to put a warm jacket around when you were a kid." What do you know about my fuckin mother? The cunt died two years ago and not a moment to soon. She typified what I hate about "humanity". A virus which includes "parents" who use their own children. She was a sometime party member and also a user, a liar and a manipulator. For your info on top of that for several years I was sexually abused starting at the age of 9 by another party member who shall remain nameless. So don't talk to me about the milk of human kindness.The party as an edifice shall remain blameless because it has tried it's level best to change perception in the past 120 years…to no avail. From what I can see all we've had for the past 10,000 years is a pathetic litany of violence, slavery, genocide, rape, exploitation and misery caused by human greed. I don't imagine it was a bed of roses in "primitive Communism" either. Trying to dress all this up as being caused by this or that "ism" is a cop out. The problem is US. Just watch this latest film by Adam Curtis to see how we've ended up… http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04b183c We are well and truly fucked.
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ParticipantOur horrible cheating, lying, thieving, manipulating, torturing, murdering, devouring, exploiting, conniving species is going to extinguish itself. Why even bother labelling this situation by calling it Capitalism? We created the fucker in our own image. It's our baby. Forget the "Working Class" saving the planet. That's a fuckin pipedream. No such thing as human nature? You could have fooled me. Blaming it all on "Capitalism" is a fuckin cop out. CAPITALISM IS THE HIDEOUS MANIFESTATION OF…US.
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ParticipantListen I didn't put that post up for praise or to be set up as an example for members to emulate. I'm not even a party member anymore. It might piss people off as I've written some amount of garbage on here. Also I'm in the bizarre situation where I don't actually know who most of you are never having met you. Similarly most of you will never have met me. We can't even see each other! Yes the net (if we can hold onto it before it is completely eclipsed by the owning class) is an amazing leveller but it also lends people the ability to become assholes behind a screen. Me included. This might go some way to explaining why there's all this endless bickering going on here. Would there have been as much bad feeling in the 70's or 80's when the Internet didn't exist? I don't know. Trolls, stalkers, haters, revenge porn and all the rest of it didn't exist years ago. It's as if the Internet has given workers a tool to vent and vomit with. To enable them at last to unleash some of the frustration that comes with being utterly powerless.
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ParticipantMate I often talk pish on this forum esp when it comes to my love/hate relationship with the working class. I'm also fascinated to learn about the origins of the Lennon lyric. Perhaps it's just my arrogance on wondering how anyone could ever have arrived at such a lyric without first having read SPGB lit. I find that astonishing .
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Participant"re copyright. I have had this video up for some time using material of John Lennon."I think I posed this question before but didn't Lennon have a copy of "Questions of the Day" on him when he wrote the lyric for Imagine? I can't remember which old party member told me that when I was about. 16. Lets face it he couldn't have come up with those lines had he been immersed in Maoist/Trot/Leninist tracts. Going off topic here sorry.
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ParticipantI just watched the video again and it is excellent. I regret saying the narration should be changed because I guess I've caused offence yet again. Also I was also totally wrong when I said no one would watch it as it's had well over 1000 views in a week. I was talking shite. The problem with forums like this one is that sooner or later things end up in a fisticuffs situation with resentment brewing up. You only have to scan the comments section of any online newspaper article or YouTube video and sooner or later things turn into a slanging match. It's easy to sit behind a screen and pontificate. I do it all the time. There wouldn't be anywhere near this level of animosity if everyone was siting in the pub together talking. Double edged sword the net.
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ParticipantLecture over? Ffs.
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ParticipantWhy mention Scottish Newsreaders ALB? Because I'm a Scot? How pathetic. Same old same old with the SPGB I see. The commentary might be easy for you and I to understand but surely this is a global message and the guy narrating is going to cause people to switch off abroad. Not that anyone will watch the fucking thing anyway.
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ParticipantJust watched this. V good. However could a foreign audience actually understand the text as narrated by a heavy regional accent? No problem for anyone here in the UK. But for an English student in Moldova or a housewife in Nigeria? In the comments section underneath the video on YouTube a lady asks for a full transcription saying "it would be easy to understand clearly and translate in several languages". Forgive me but you need a new narrator for this. With crystal clear diction.
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