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A critical report on the founding conferencehttp://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/left-unity-conference.html
Members leaving to do their own thing is probably the fate of many autonomous Marxist groups. I suspect most committed autonomists would not join other non-autonomist organisations.
For spotterly interest, I was curious to see if this woke up the old Stalinists, so I wandered over to the Morning Star and saw this piece by a No2EUerhttp://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-806e-Ukraine-the-untold-storyI wonder which side Weekly Worker will take as they are supposed to be pro-Europe? I wonder which side Left Unity will take?
I actually think the SPGB use of the term 'ban' is about as misleading as the ICC-IP/CWO use. The purported political grounds of each organisation being detrimental to the working class is so vague, it could equally apply to the Anarchist Bookfair's rejection (who actually specified it was to do with the SPGB being a party). The Anarchist Bookfair's never stopped members of the SPGB attending as individuals. If individual guests were stopped from attending a public event by the hosts, this would be plain old sectarian of the hosts, not really a principled political stance that could be called a 'ban', unless those individuals (even new members) were so disruptive or following orders to push a party line irrespective of the event. In which case, it would be more of an indictment of the organisation whose members were guests were banned.
'Banning' individual members sounds more sectarian than political, since it would be simply based on which members of the groups were known to one another (and unenforcable against unfamiliar members). Using the term 'ban' in this instance is a bit grandiose compared to a situation where a group has been rejected from having an official space explicitly on political grounds.
here's the second podcasthttp://www.internationalsocialistnetwork.org/index.php/downloads/290-bradford-leeds-isn-podcast-episode-2
Historically, Machiavelli's the Prince and Hobbes' Leviathan. Maybe Hume and Locke's Treatises too. For 20th Century to present, I'm not sure.
The archive of messages on the yahoo forums dates back to 2001 (in the case of WSM_Forum), these would need saving before dispensing with the yahoo forums. In any case, there is the small matter of the members who are familiar with this forum but prefer to use the yahoo forums and these diehards who in fact make the majority of posts on the yahoo forums. Wouldn't some of them stop posting anywhere?
