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"moronic moderation" is a silly and unhelpful term, but I would say that the recent banning of Stuart from the forum was absolutely ridiculous and over the top. If a chair had acted like that in a meeting, there would have been a motion to remove them from the chair.Discretion should have been applied during that particular thread, and to suggest that the moderator had to abide by the rules just wont wash.
Vin's makes a fair point. I'm not suggesting for a second that we soft-pedal our criticisms of Labour in all its forms, but these memes just seem to be the one tone and I think they're going to backfire on us. Why would Corbyn supporters investigate our politics further if that's the first thing they see coming from us?I think these are only appealing to a small pool of individuals; individuals, in the main, who are already aware of Labour's sorry history in government.
I agree with Vin.I think the moderator should have also taken into account that it was a brief light-hearted exchange, and that it really wasn't some sort of malicious or mischievous attempt to derail a thread.
jondwhite wrote:In a couple of Marx's works, he refers to 'vulgar democrats'. What was he getting at?Could you link to the articles or passages where he makes the reference. The context could explain what he's getting at.
I agree with Vin, and apologies for my part in the thread which resulted in Stuart being temporarily suspended from posting to the forum.I understand the general rule of keeping on topic – and I don't envy the role that the moderator has to perform – but I think discretition should be employed sometimes. It was a temporary – and lighthearted – detour from the topic at hand.
stuartw2112 wrote:Excellent point Darren, but you're forgetting that your taste in music is wrong and punk was just awful.
post-punk, cheeky chops.I made a point of mentioning it twice in my post just in case someone got the wrong end of the drumstick. Now, please leave the thread with your Rush albums tucked under your arm. You have no place on a thread that touches on great music.
"(Only slightly a joke – the music of the period was made possible by full employment and the welfare state.)"Don't forget the Art Schools.My favourite period of music is – surprise, surprise – 1978 thru' 1983, and many a NME type has made the point that that period blossomed musically only because of high youth unemployment and a crumbling infrastructure which meant that the youth of the day had nothing better to do than create brilliant post-punk music and practice their (post) punky sneer in the bedroom mirror.It works both ways.
I could see Left Unity dissolving if Corbyn wins. They have been some of his biggest cheerleaders on social media.
700 plus meeting in Dundee.300 plus at a lunchtime meeting in Aberdeen.It looks like Corbymania has reached north of the border.
Found the review of Steel's book from the Standard:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2000s/2001/no-1163-june-2001/book-reviews#b
Steel was a member of the SWP for 20 plus years. I'd recommed his Reasons To Be Cheerful. A genuinely laugh out loud book about being a political activist – for the SWP – through the 80s and 90s. It's even quite touching in places, and any political activist – whatever your brand – will recognise themselves in some of the anecdotes in the book.It may have even been reviewed in the Standard. I know at least one of his books was.
Wasn't there a suggetion a few months back that Socialist Appeal – alongside Socialist Action one of the last vanguardist actively committed to entryism inside the Labour Party – were seriously thinking of leaving the Labour Party because it was seen as a dead end for political work? I think this was especially true of their experience inside the Scottish Labour Party. And, now, fast forward a few months and Corbyn is the new messiah. (I'm being a bit cheeky because of his initials.) It even puts the Bernie Sanders – who's intials are b.s. – campaign over here into the shade.
Vin,I know it wasn't meant but your post gives the impression that I wrote that about Corbyn views on state control. That was in fact from the 1989 article itself.I had to clarify that becaue i'm a sensitive flower.
Interesting vox pop video from Speakers' Corner Heiko Khoo's where he asks people queuing up for a Jeremy Corbyn meeting for three reasons why they are voting for Corbyn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC76yIQ4uXI&feature=youtu.be
