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February 22, 2015 at 8:45 am in reply to: Conspiracy Theories and how big business-aka -your government won the propaganda war #109878
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KeymasterHere's a message received at Head Office from somebody in Japan:
Quote:To socialist party of GB: Break off relations with Rothchilds promptly 21 Feb., 2015 tatsmaki (Japan) According to a space information from the Creators of the Space blocks control world, the Socialist Party of GB is a tool bribed for the purpose of self-protection of Rothchilds being shapeshifters of draconians of the Draco to avoid sanctions by the Creators. Draconians of the Draco are the official emblem of London city. They are bosses of leptilian-humanoids of the Lizard being the dictator-ruler of the USA. They are invaders-rulers of the Earth since the ancient times. The GHQ of draconians and leptilian-humanoids in Agarta of inner world of the Earth was liquidated by the Creators on Aug. 17, 2014. But Illuminati, G20 leaders, ruling layers of each nation and activists elements of it's various fields are continuing wrongdoings all over the world. The Socialist Party of GB has raised a slogan of "Abolish money! ", but it is not for social justice and is for such an ugly selfish purpose of Rothchilds. The Creators gave them an order so that the Socialist Party GB breaks off with Rothchilds promptly and becomes the independent political party of the British people. The Earth will be disappeared from our Space as the last general cleaning of the Earth in 2015 by the Creators.Come to the meeting this afternoon when all will be revealed: http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/event/what-conspiracy-theories-arent-telling-you-head-office-3pm
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KeymasterWe now know who is financing the TUSC candidates deposits. It's not the RMT. It's the old, practically defunct "Socialist Alliance" from a £100,000 legacy they've received. See:http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-89f6-Socialist-Alliance-gets-100k-boost-to-election-prospects#.VOmOmCwoFqAhttp://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/events-and-announcements/left-unityorg-peoples-assembly?page=56#comment-20919
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Keymastergnome wrote:Not sure if this should be on this thread or on the one about electoral activity but here goes…This from yesterday's Morning Star:It should probably be on the TUSC threadactually, as here's how they've decided to use the £100,000 donation (see: http://www.socialistalliance.org.uk/?linkId=1&storyId=124 )
Quote:In practical terms, the Socialist Alliance will donate:§£500 each to the first 100 candidates who are selected and endorsed by a left coalition, such as TUSC, which will help create the largest possible left challenge and thus contribute towards there being national media coverage. The Socialist Alliance National Executive, meeting subsequently on Sunday, decided that it would be TUSC that was identified as that left coalition to receive such donations§£500, if funds allow, for additional candidates to the 100 on that same basis.§£500 to any candidate not part such a left coalition, but who has demonstrated that her/his organisation is willing to work co-operatively at a local level. This could be by simply engaging in discussions to avoid electoral clashes, although we would hope it would be more.§An additional £500 to any such candidate who can demonstrate to the SA NEC, in writing, before the end of February 2015, that they are, or have been, a member of the Socialist Alliance and are committed to its principles§£500 towards any other socialist party/organization/campaign group standing which clearly demonstrates a commitment to unity on the left§If the necessary number of candidates are fielded by a Left coalition such as TUSC, the cost of a fully-professional Party Election Broadcast, up to a maximum of £5,000.What this means is that it is the old "Socialist Alliance", not the RMT, that is bankrolling TUSC candidates election deposits. I suppose we could have blown our legacy in the same way but wiser counsels prevailed !Anyway, LU missed the boat again. They could have had a slice of the pie too.
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Keymastergnome wrote:Cumnor looks like a lovely little sleepy hollow. When will the hustings take place there and the other two you mentioned in Oxford East?The organiser of the clean-up there warned that we'd get nowhere there politically as, just like in the 19th century, everybody there was only either a Tory or a Liberal. No, there won't be a hustings there but there will be (date to be fixed) in nearby, but not so picturesque Botley.One piece of pub-quiz information I picked up in Oxford was that the Green Party candidate for Oxford West and Abingdon, Larry Sanders, is the brother of the US Senator, Bernie Sanders, the only member of the US Congress to call himself a "socialist". He's only a Labour Party type Social Democrat of course, but even that's pretty daring for a US politician.
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KeymasterA couple of useful days in Oxford. Met the election manager at the Town Hall and got some electoral registers. Found 10 people (actually 11) to sign the nomination papers in Oxford East. With no contacts in Oxford West & Abingdon, two of us went from door-to-door and asking people in the street and got 7 signatures in less than two hours .We got invited in for a cup of tea by an elector with a Vote National Health Action Party poster in their window (turned out his daughter was a surgeon). Should be able to get the other 3 on 8 March in the village of Cumnor in gratitude for our candidate Mike taking part in the annual clean-up there (that wouldn't be vote-catching, only nomination-signature catching). Also got two more invitations to hustings, this time in Oxford East.
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KeymasterMet the person from "Socialist Resistance" ("house-trained trots", I like it). There is virtually no LU in Oxford but there is a branch of his group. He gave me a back copy of their magazine Socialist Resistance for Summer 2013, i.e after Ken Loach had made his appeal for a new Left party and before LU was founded. There's an article 'UKIP advances [in the May local elections of that year] shame the left' in which the author (Phil Hearse) writes:
Quote:The failure to construct a left electoral alternative to Labour shames the left, and in particular the leaderships of the SWP and Socialist Party, jointly culpable for the collapse of successive left unity initiatives. Certainly on the kind of unfavourable terrain that existed in yesterday's elections would not guarantee any kind of left electoral breakthrough. But the left should try to be a growing electoral alternative to austerity, xenophobia and racism. The present practice on much of the left is in fact a form of electoral abstentionism, although at a formal level organisations like the SWP and the SP reject it. Shrugging your shoulders and muttering about the primacy of mass struggle is (at best) a capitulation to syndicalism and spontaneism. The right wing must be fought in elections as well as in the mass struggle, obviously.I still don't understand why, from their own points of view, the leaders of LU have chosen not to participate in the coming general election. Whatever the reason (I think they mutter only about local, single-issue struggles), they've missed the boat and any chance of getting off the ground. They've given the Greens the chance to become "left electoral alternative to Labour". Maybe because that's where their sympathies lay anyway.
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KeymasterI see one idea is to give political parties £3 for every vote they get:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058339/Cost-funding-political-parties-3-vote.htmlThat would mean we'd get the £500 deposit back if we got 167 votes (instead of 5% of the votes cast, as now).. Sounds alright (as we can normally do that): better the State giving us money rather than the other way round (even if the £500 entitles us to free postal distribution, a good bargain anyway).
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Keymasterstuartw2112 wrote:ALB: Simon Hardy's a nice decent guy, smart too. Perhaps on the election trail you can make friends.I can agree with you on that. I've read in some of his stuff. Probably shan't come across him myself as I'm the election agent for our candidates in Oxford. In fact I'm off in a while for a drink there with a member of the trot group "Socialist Resistance". I think they're in LU too, aren't they? No, it's not Alan Thornett.
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KeymasterIt gets more complicated. The Green Party candidate who stood in Vauxhall in 2010, Joseph Healy, left and joined Left Unity. He now sits on their Disputes Committee. He has just (18 Feb) tweeted his support for Simon Hardy.
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KeymasterIt so happens that one of the handful of Left Unity candidates in the coming general election will be standing in Vauxhall where we are too. So there'll be a head-to-deal clash withh them there. However, their candidate doesn't seem to be a normal LUer:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/world-socialist-movement/general-election-news-release?page=7#comment-20804
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KeymasterWe have a new opponent in Vauxhall: Left Unity..Their candidate is Simon Hardy, ex-Workers Power, the Trotskyist group that stood against us there in 2010,http://leftunity.org/simon-hardy-left-unity-candidate-for-vauxhall/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=simon-hardy-left-unity-candidate-for-vauxhall He still seems to consider himself a bit of a Bolshevik-Leninist but one of those who try to argue that Lenin wasn't really a Leninist, i.e didn't really believe in a top-down, highly disciplined vanguard party to lead the discontented masses (when he clearly did):http://anticapitalists.org/2012/12/28/building-a-revolutionary-organisation-i/In any event, he still seems to be a member of the Dead Russians Society.
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KeymasterI've been reading the Morning Star this week (to see if they've published a letter we sent them) and have been surprised at their negative attitude towards Syriza. There's a letter protesting against this in today's issue. Apparently, the Morning Star, which is closely associated with the CPB, is echoing the views of the Greek Communist Party, the KKE, which is also hostile to Syriza. It wants Greece to withdraw from the EU (and so the euro). Which of course is what the CPB wants the UK to do too. But an "independent" state-capitalist siege economy wouldn't make things any better for workers in Greece. In fact it would probably make things even worse.Incidentally, in the elections the KKE also increased its vote and representation in parliament.
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KeymasterVery interesting and revealing, this speech dating from 2013 of the person who is now Greece's Minister of Finance. For those who won't read the whole article here's a couple of key passages:
Quote:Yet my aim here is to offer a window into my view of a repugnant European capitalism whose implosion, despite its many ills, should be avoided at all costs. It is a confession intended to convince radicals that we have a contradictory mission: to arrest the freefall of European capitalism in order to buy the time we need to formulate its alternative.Quote:If this means that it is we, the suitably erratic Marxists, who must try to save European capitalism from itself, so be it. Not out of love for European capitalism, for the eurozone, for Brussels, or for the European Central Bank, but just because we want to minimise the unnecessary human toll from this crisisIt's the same argument he put forward in his blog in April 2012 already quoted on this thread.At least he's honest about what he has since been given a chance to try to do.
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KeymasterHere (I hope) is Jim Callaghan's famous speech at the burial of the Keynesian idea that a government could spend its way out of a crisis:http://tiny.cc/mmh3tx I don't know if it has been translated into Greek so Alexis Tsipras can use it in a year or so's time.
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KeymasterYou beat me to it ! Silvio Gesell's "stamp scrip" idea is mentioned in this article in the Socialist Standard:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2000s/2009/no-1254-february-2009/cooking-books-1-free-money-everyoneBasically, he proposed that money should devalue the longer it was held as cash and not spent. This, as a way of encouraging people to spend. It might work (it's not based on a fallacy about the nature of money). Some local currencies have adopted it (I don't know what my souvenir Stroud Pound must be worth now).Gesell has a sort of place in working-class history as he was Finance Minister in the ill-fated 1919 Munich Soviet .
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