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  • in reply to: Russian Tensions #230439
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    From France 24:

    “He said the Azot chemical plant was being shelled, with fighting around the area. About 800 civilians have taken refuge in the plant’s bunkers, according to the tycoon whose company owns the facility.”

    When is an oligarch not an oligarch? When they are a tycoon.

    in reply to: An Incontestable Argument for the Law of Value #230437
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    From the current issue of Jacobin magazine:

    “But Cohen believed that rank-and-file socialists who think the LTV is obvious are moved by something other than Marx’s technical claims about value. Instead, what moves them is something like a “labor theory of things that have value,” which is very obviously true! Regardless of what value is, no commodity that has value has ever been the product of anything except some combination of (a) the nonhuman natural world and (b) human labor.”

    https://jacobin.com/2022/06/karl-marx-labor-theory-of-value-ga-cohen-economics/

    in reply to: An Incontestable Argument for the Law of Value #230407
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    Not an atom of matter enters into the reality of value. We may twist and turn a commodity this way and that way — as a thing of value it still remains unappreciable by our bodily senses.

    in reply to: Wolff, co-ops and socialism #230394
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    He doesn’t tell us how inflation will be prevented in his workers’ co-op market economy. As a market economy there will still be money, but who will control the money supply? The workers coop running the Federal Reserve perhaps.

    He blames profit-seeking private enterprises for causing inflation by raising prices, but wouldn’t his workers coops producing for the market also have an incentive to charge what the market will bear?

    in reply to: An Incontestable Argument for the Law of Value #230377
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    in reply to: Russian Tensions #230375
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    I know that the group behind this site are not the most reliable, being one of the 57 varieties of Trotskyism but is what they say here true?

    “In the aftermath of the DSA’s meeting, what Chretien tellingly referred to as “our government” agreed to send Ukraine $40 billion in military aid. Every single DSA member of Congress, including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Jamaal Bowman, Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib, voted to support the aid package. Ilhan Omar and Bernie Sanders, who are not technically DSA members, also voted for the bill.“

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/03/wtqm-j03.html

    in reply to: Cyber communist planning #230342
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    He is certainly still opposed to electing people to take technical decisions. But in episode 12 of his podcast series Revolution Now! (2 December 2020) he does speak of “economic democracy” but it seems to be limited to taking part in designing the system:

    “In a future economy that’s truly efficient, it will be truly integrative and you will have an economic democracy where people participate through CAD systems and design, as I touched upon the prior podcast. They will engage a network like Amazon, and such robust infrastructure that Amazon currently possesses would be utilized for efficient and sustainable design production and distribution and recycling.”

    https://www.revolutionnow.live/episodes/episode12-staycationing-9jlk7-pcw4k-rctmc-rg7sy-mcwy5-bnfg8-xjkwd-ygamp-c29ts-sswe2-2ygh3-gzs5y

    This would seem to be a change of language from what he was saying ten years when he didn’t even mention the word “democracy”.

    in reply to: Russian Tensions #230323
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    in reply to: Cyber communist planning #230320
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    Here’s what the Zeitgeist Movement has to say on this. They seem to be siding with the “cyber communists”.

    “Two people are born every second on this planet, and each one of those humans needs a lifetime of food, energy, water and the like. Given this fundamental need to understand what we have, the rates of depletion and, invariably, the need to streamline industry in the most efficient, productive way, a Global System of Resource Management must be put in place. It is just common sense. This is an extensive subject when one considers the technical, quantitative variables needed for implementation. However, for the sake of overview, it can be stated that the first step is a Full Global Survey of all earthly resources. Then, based on a quantitative analysis of the properties of each material, a strategically defined process of production is constructed from the bottom up, using such variables as negative retroactions, renewability, etc. (More on this can be found in the section called Project Earth in the ZM lecture called “Where Are We Going?”). Then consumption statistics are accessed, rates of depletion become monitored, distribution is logically formulated, etc.. In other words, it is a full Systems Approach to earthly resource management, production, and distribution, with the goal of absolute efficiency, conservation, and sustainability. Given the mathematically defined attributes, as based on all available information at the time, along with the state of technology at the time, the parameters for social operation within the industrial complex become self-evident, with decisions “arrived at” by way of computation, not human opinion. This is where computer intelligence becomes an important tool for social governance, for only the computation ability/programming of computers can access and strategically regulate such processes efficiently, and in real time. This technological application is not novel. It is simply ‘scaled out’ from current methods already known.”

    https://medium.com/the-zeitgeist-movement/about-the-natural-law-resource-based-economy-nlrbe-e751a3933d69

    in reply to: New Peter Joseph Film #230314
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    Peter Joseph on the word “socialism” from a tweet the other day:

    “Folks also need to stop using the word Socialism as an activist foundation because it is antiquated and lends to perpetual misinterprrtation. Better to simply speak of the train of thought behind public health and sustainability. The logic of a new social system is self-evident.”

    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEictxHSyWfEIo7Iu6BdF2DkF2azSAPsR4J5G_LuQvFODkWI0WmsqI5QrfxilesE-7j7qH6t40wzTbLtk_LvN1KWd1n_ojgCmobtgXMdq_VNjxMSbinljQVYIehemoSeJQws56Gg8lUTbzghgdnJ_hdhOZb2JRuiEliNXwTQkiACqXvtrHj91Uw/s320/Joseph%20Socialism.jpg

    in reply to: Russian Tensions #230297
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    Looks as if Zelensky has been taken in by Borys’s bluff, bluster and bombast. But then Zelensky’s not too bad at that sort of thing himself (though he doesn’t seem
    to be partying while the Donbass burns).

    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/07/the-world-needs-such-leaders-ukraine-welcomes-johnson-victory

    in reply to: Cyber communist planning #230291
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    I have had a quick look and it seems to be an argument in favour of central planning as practiced in historical state capitalist economies (I saw references to the USSR), a demonstration that it could work under ideal conditions (which were absent in the USSR). I could be wrong but that’s what the articles in Spanish seem to be suggesting.

    I thought that Pieter Lawrence and Robin Cox had convincingly argued that this this would not be necessary in socialism and that for most consumer goods and services production and distribution could be more or less self-regulating, operating like the market today except that demand would be real need not paying demand.

    In this case, central planning would only need to be indicative or apply only to infrastructure projects.

    in reply to: Russian Tensions #230256
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    Half-time score: Wales 1. NATO 0. I don’t know if it’s symbolic but NATO scored an own goal.

    in reply to: Brains and Politics #230209
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    “What we don’t know is whether that brain signature is there because of the ideology that people choose or whether people’s ideology is caused by the signatures we found…”

    That’s a commendably honest conclusion from the research results. So often researchers — and even more those who report their results — forget that correlation doesn’t mean causation and that, if A and B go together, conclude that either A caused B or that B caused A without offering a plausible way this could happen (and/or ignoring that some third factor could cause both).

    in reply to: An Incontestable Argument for the Law of Value #230202
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    We are not arguing over the meaning of the word “same” but of the word “reproducable” and the words “capable of being reproduced”.

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