What is my next step? How promote socialism locally?

May 2024 Forums General discussion What is my next step? How promote socialism locally?

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    alanjjohnstone
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    The first step is to bring together like-minded men and women to discuss their ideas and share expectations. Not sure about your individual circumstances but one method is to find some local aspect of radical thought or action within your community's history and write about it to your local newspaper. And then who knows what response it elicits but something like a local labour history forum is an approach that can lead to a socialist discussion group.  

    #98365
    admice
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    O, thanks so much for the great suggestions.Don't go to huge lengths to find the group, but if you do come across I'd appreciate it. i'm in liberal cocoon area, probably couldn't live anywhere else, but don't know of any far left radicals. Found out today my minister's wife is a registered communist tho! Hope to talk to her."Why do we have to create something new when there is already one companion party of the WSM in the USA which is the WSPUS" The USA is a big country, hun, they are in Chicago or Boston, 3000 miles (5000K?) from me. I'd like people a little closer. They also haven't answered me. It's been  over a month.Jumping around a bit. Bribe with another item in shortage. You're the one not thinking outside the box. Money only represents wealth, value, get rid of money does not get rid of things of value and the problem is if there is not enough for everyone, which is the case now, true shortages, not due to capitalism.  "We do not even have shortage in the capitalist society, " O so not true my friend. I worked for a subdivision of a company that had a pharmaceutical division. They wanted to make a certain product but just couldn't get enough raw materials. They just couldn't dig it out of the earth fast enough. That's just one other example. How do you handle scarcity?Unfortunately for you all, I'll keep in touch. I like you guys. Such support of my values, it's incredible: equality, diversity, reason, empiricism (sort of), knowledge, compassion. Pretty cool.

    #98366
    rodshaw
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    How do you handle demand for a particular surgeon's skills? A waiting list.How do you handle shortages? Either do without, or ration, or have people take turns, on a democratically decided basis. I don't think we'd be talking about life-threatening stuff here. There'd be plenty of food, clothing and housing for all.Don't forget that the machinery for some to have more political or economic clout than others simply won't exist, and society as a whole will make sure it stays that way.

    #98367
    admice
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    Thanks rodshaw. Yes, bribery of course would be illegal with most of society enforcing. Ration, or lottery or some such or egalitarian basis for distribution. Paddy wrote something similar. Yes, you can have shortages and still have democracy and socialism. YAY!. No market develops, because we don't let it. I need to keep track of all these answers. I WAS talking about life saving medicine, but those decisions have to be made in any society. Right now there's a shortage of a raw material for a newish TB prevention drug, but they are using triage to decide distribution. As Adam says should not be based upon can't pay, can't have. Scumbags (capitalists, that is).

    #98368
    rodshaw
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    I think it would be more a case of no market developing because we no longer needed one – the concept would be obsolete.So to deal with possible shortages or scarcities we could have waiting lists, doing without, rationing, or taking turns. Just to add two more – find another way of doing the same thing, or first come first served. Nothing to say a socialist society couldn't handle all or any of these methods if it had to. Even now, with all of us being allegedly so greedy and acquisitive, many people are happy with these methods (think, say, of ticket allocations for a popular rock concert).Roll on the day. It's a sobering thought that I've been a member of the Socialist Party since 1977, or for one third of its entire existence. If only I could see the beginnings of it happening in the next 20 years or so, assuming I live into my eighties, I'd die happy. So by all means get promoting!

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    Anonymous
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    rodshaw wrote:
    I think it would be more a case of no market developing because we no longer needed one – the concept would be obsolete.So to deal with possible shortages or scarcities we could have waiting lists, doing without, rationing, or taking turns. Just to add two more – find another way of doing the same thing, or first come first served. Nothing to say a socialist society couldn't handle all or any of these methods if it had to. Even now, with all of us being allegedly so greedy and acquisitive, many people are happy with these methods (think, say, of ticket allocations for a popular rock concert).Roll on the day. It's a sobering thought that I've been a member of the Socialist Party since 1977, or for one third of its entire existence. If only I could see the beginnings of it happening in the next 20 years or so, assuming I live into my eighties, I'd die happy. So by all means get promoting!

     Scarcity is a concept developed by the bourgeois economists. Scarcity of raw materials between  capitalist competition, and private appropriation of raw material is not scarcity per se, in fact, at the present time we are going through a crisis of super-production, which is not a crisis either.  I have known peoples who have spent their whole life in the socialist-communist movement, and they have died, and never lost the horizon that a new society was possible to be established, and they were not amateurs, and romanticizers, even more, some risked their own life, politic is not  a child playgroundEconomists, not in this plantethttp://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/education/depth-articles/economics/economists-not-planet

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