Russian Tensions
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Graphical representation of the territorial gains and losses on both sides of the conflict
Prof Paul Rodgers of Bradford Peace studies dept has some sage analysis. he repeats the 100K Russian soldiers killed or wounded, but looks at the likelihood of an ongoing stalemate: “This does not mean that Ukraine’s army can readily make further progress, given that the Russian defensive positions will be difficult to overcome in winter and attacking them would inevitably be costly in lives. So despite Kyiv’s Kherson success, a continuing violent stalemate until early March looks all too likely.”
I think he’s quite good on the tensions within the Russian regime, and with potential successors to Putin.
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“It’s no longer a debate on the war in Ukraine, or hadn’t you noticed, stupider.”
Here, here Lizzie! All-in, care to remind Bojo’s Brain, Robotomy and Thomas Bore of the thread topic? The Ukraine/Russia conflict.
“But please note it was the main reason that the previous moderator closed the Hong Kong protests topic.”
That’s not the impression I got. It seemed to me it was closed because Mewling Socialista declared there was nothing more to add to the topic. Not true mind you, but there you go.
“But please note it was the main reason that the previous moderator closed the Hong Kong protests topic.”
That’s not the impression I got. It seemed to me it was closed because Mewling Socialista declared there was nothing more to add to the topic. Not true mind you, but there you go.
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As always you are wrong again . I used that expression in this particular thread. Matt was a very experienced moderator and nobody was able to influence on him. He made the decision by himself. I will say again you are the novice, I grew up in the working class movement. Where you are standing now, I was there more than 50 years ago, and I met many lumpen like you
As ALB has said it will be inevitable that the West will weary of war when faced with their own problems.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/11/22/is-germany-changing-tack-on-ukraine
“A survey conducted in October suggests that 40 percent of Germans fully or partially believe that NATO provoked Russia into invading Ukraine. That number increases to a staggering 59 percent in provinces that were once part of communist East Germany.”
“About a third of respondents share the view that Ukraine is historically part of Russia and roughly the same number accept the conspiracy theory that the US had set up secret laboratories on Ukrainian soil to develop biological weapons.”
“In Italy, public support for sending arms to Ukraine has been hovering around 41 percent, compared with 57 percent in Germany and 62 percent in France. Scepticism prevails in Slovakia, Bulgaria – whose parliament, nevertheless, decided to send military supplies to Kyiv – and Hungary”
” In Greece, 28 percent blame NATO for the conflict, and in Bulgaria, 44 percent.”
“On October 29, a large rally was held in Prague against the policies of the pro-EU government in support of Ukraine. On November 5, tens of thousands marched in Rome, calling for peace and for halting arms deliveries to Kyiv. Germany has also seen rallies and strikes against the war and the rising cost of living.”
“This is precisely what Russian President Vladimir Putin’s strategy is aimed at. By prolonging the war in a variety of ways – from a mass mobilisation to relentless attacks against civilian infrastructure across Ukraine – he is banking on Western unity unravelling down the line.”
But does it mean people support Russia?
A poll from September shows that 74 percent of Germans favour supporting Ukraine despite high energy bills, which have gone down since.
In another poll from October, some 86 percent of citizens see Russia as a “global threat factor”.“With the German government setting up a 100bn-euro ($102bn) fund to modernise the military, Russia is facing a much more potent EU west of its border.”
A sign that one aim of Putin – to weaken NATO has not worked
“Putin’s best hope is to carry on with the war, wreaking havoc and causing immense human suffering in Ukraine while waiting for a change in the White House in two years.”
Another commentator who suggests a long war and does not anticipate any quick victory.
“As ALB has said it will be inevitable that the West will weary of war when faced with their own problems.”
Wait til all the Ukrainian refugees start arriving following the collapse of the electrical grid. They’ll have their own problems and then some.
“A survey conducted in October suggests that 40 percent of Germans fully or partially believe that NATO provoked Russia into invading Ukraine.”
Stubborn buggers. Why won’t they get their minds right?
“That number increases to a staggering 59 percent in provinces that were once part of communist East Germany.”
So 41% have drunk the Koolaid?
“About a third of respondents share the view that Ukraine is historically part of Russia”
So they know their history?
“and roughly the same number accept the conspiracy theory that the US had set up secret laboratories on Ukrainian soil to develop biological weapons.”
The Russians claim to have copious evidence in support of their claim. Without an independent investigation it’s too early to call the allegations a “conspiracy theory”.
“In Italy, public support for sending arms to Ukraine has been hovering around 41 percent, compared with 57 percent in Germany and 62 percent in France. Scepticism prevails in Slovakia, Bulgaria – whose parliament, nevertheless, decided to send military supplies to Kyiv – and Hungary”
The power of the big lie.
”In Greece, 28 percent blame NATO for the conflict, and in Bulgaria, 44 percent.”
Gotta start somewhere.
“On October 29, a large rally was held in Prague against the policies of the pro-EU government in support of Ukraine. On November 5, tens of thousands marched in Rome, calling for peace and for halting arms deliveries to Kyiv. Germany has also seen rallies and strikes against the war and the rising cost of living.”
Wait til the next wave of refugees arrive and see the numbers change.
“This is precisely what Russian President Vladimir Putin’s strategy is aimed at. By prolonging the war in a variety of ways – from a mass mobilisation to relentless attacks against civilian infrastructure”
The infrastructure is dual use. Ukraine’s train network runs on electricity. No trains, no moving troops and material to the front.
“across Ukraine – he is banking on Western unity unravelling down the line.”
Actually, he’s following Russia’s stated SMO aims. Nothing has changed.
“But does it mean people support Russia?
A poll from September shows that 74 percent of Germans favour supporting Ukraine despite high energy bills, which have gone down since.
In another poll from October, some 86 percent of citizens see Russia as a “global threat factor”.”Russia doesn’t care if NATOstanis support her. It’s given up on Europe.
“With the German government setting up a 100bn-euro ($102bn) fund to modernise the military, Russia is facing a much more potent EU west of its border.”
A sign that one aim of Putin – to weaken NATO has not worked”
Lol. NATO is deindustrialing and demilitarising. Its economies are in freefall. Proposed weapons systems will take years, if ever, to materialise. NATO is a paper tiger and the world now knows it.
“Putin’s best hope is to carry on with the war, wreaking havoc and causing immense human suffering in Ukraine while waiting for a change in the White House in two years.”
No, it’s to decisively defeat Ukraine on the battlefield which I doubt will take too long.
“Another commentator who suggests a long war and does not anticipate any quick victory.”
Commentators are a dime a dozen. This one is clueless.
“Here, here Lizzie! All-in, care to remind Bojo’s Brain, Robotomy and Thomas Bore of the thread topic? The Ukraine/Russia conflict.”
Truly Stupid –
Actually, all of my posts on this thread have been on-topic if you care to check…. And I am still waiting to hear from you as to why you consider Ukraine to be a “fascist state” but not Russia when they are so remarkably similar – right-wing, repressive, authoritarian, capitalist oligarchies.
Yet another question you have conveniently squirmed out of answering
“Here, here Lizzie! All-in, care to remind Bojo’s Brain, Robotomy and Thomas Bore of the thread topic? The Ukraine/Russia conflict.”
“Truly Stupid –”
Talks Sense, more like 🙂
“Actually, all of my posts on this thread have been on-topic if you care to check….”
What, read your drivel a second time?! I’d rather stick an ice pick in my eye.
“And I am still waiting to hear from you as to why you consider Ukraine to be a “fascist state””
Cos it’s run by nazis.
“but not Russia”
Cos it’s not run by nazis.
“when they are so remarkably similar – right-wing, repressive, authoritarian, capitalist oligarchies.”
Sounds an awful lot like Britain’s government. So Britain is nazi too?
“Yet another question you have conveniently squirmed out of answering”
No, I’ve answered the question plenty of times just not to your liking. And for that, I don’t give a shit.
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