Russian Tensions

March 2024 Forums General discussion Russian Tensions

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  • #229367
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Alan, did you see this from your favourite Pope?

    https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-suggests-apos-barking-221515078.html

    #229368
    james19
    Participant

    Update on my little spat….

    I receive emails when I get replies…
    I did a search, and found in 1996? (approx ) before Russia invaded. There was a Ukrainian demonstration, (the Crimea ?)in which police officers were injured!
    I know you could report material promoting terrorism or extremism?
    Since I reported this coward*, she has stopped posting after I reported her online to authorities and complained about her to the mods..
    *Urging fellow workers to fight and die..
    Iv seen 2 British men have been arrested by Russians..(both said to have Ukrainian partners* (*this unconfirmed officially to be the case?)
    The irony is, I never actually bought the Socialist Worker. I bulked at the price and length of the articles in their magazine NS…
    The rest is history

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    #229380
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/06/ukraine-wheat-harvest-may-fall-by-35-percent-satellite-images-suggest

    The global food impact of the war

    Add to this the sanctions against Russia will also reduce supply and we face increased food prices across the world

    #229381
    ALB
    Keymaster

    This is revealing. The Ukrainian regime has clearly ordered their soldiers in the steel plant in Mariupol not to surrender as any other soldiers in the same hopeless situation would have done weeks ago. They are in effect ordering them to die for the “g[l]ory of Ukraine” as this would be good propaganda. Naturally, their families don’t agree and are protesting:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/06/wives-mariupol-soldiers-dispersed-police-kyiv-protest-ukraine-russia

    Note too what happened to the men at the protest.

    #229385
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    During WW2 the soviets did the same thing, anybody who did not want to fight was executed.

    They had to fight for the so called socialist land and the church encouraged the peasants to fight.

    More than 20 millions peoples died during the patriotic war and later on the Soviet Union collapsed

    #229388
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    But maybe they dare not surrender. Being in the Azov brigade, they might fear the Russian troops would have no mercy, since they are classified as “Nazis.”

    #229389
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    ““Liberation” under the management of any government or political set-up — what’s that got to do with freedom?” (Makhno)

    #229399
    Thomas_More
    Participant
    #229401
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I think you underestimate the cynicism of those in charge of a state at war and the extent to which they are prepared to sacrifice their own troops to gain some advantage considered more important.

    This video interview below is Russian propaganda but quite effective I would have thought:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/555139-ukraine-mariupol-surrender-baranyuk/

    #229404
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I wonder if workers in Estonia are prepared to put up with the pain inflicted on them by the economic sanctions their government has imposed on Russia. And if so, for how long?

    Estonia’s annual inflation 19%, the highest in the eurozone

    Mutual Assured Depression working out.

    #229405
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    They’ll blame Russia. They are fiercely nationalist and russophobic.

    #229406
    ALB
    Keymaster

    The 25% Russophone minority might take a different view — if they dare.

    #229410
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Lockheed – Martin is going to double the production of anti tanks missiles. This war is providing a lot of benefit for the armaments industry and the capitalists states are paying the bills. Guns versus butter, guns always win and we continue supporting an economic system that does not provide us any benefits

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/lockheed-martin-ceo-says-firm-153657619.html

    #229413
    ALB
    Keymaster

    The British Minister of War, Ben Wally (also known as Wallace) is now apparently calling for Putin to be killed.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ben-wallace-putin-must-suffer-same-fate-as-nazis-xppslf2kv

    What other interpretation can be put on his call that Putin must meet the same fate as Hitler? To be fair to him, he is saying that Putin should be killed only after a Nuremberg-style show trial and not summarily executed like Bin Laden and the ISIS leader.

    Easier said than done of course. To impose victor’s justice you have to be victorious. That would mean not only defeating Russia in Ukraine and driving it out of there but pushing on to conquer Moscow, something neither Napoleon nor Hitler were able to achieve. Wally is billed as a former Guards officer but he never rose above the rank of captain. So his credentials as a military strategist are not very high.

    #229415
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    Test post.

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