Reply to a Sanders supporter. The same goes for Corbyn.
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July 2, 2019 at 7:32 pm #188579
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InactiveThe USA society is so backward that they can not even elect a social democrat
July 4, 2019 at 7:42 pm #188606alanjjohnstone
KeymasterJonathan Cook keeps rising in my estimation as a keen-eyed political commentator. Here is his analysis of the anti-Corbyn campaign
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/07/04/plot-keep-jeremy-corbyn-out-power
July 5, 2019 at 1:57 am #188610alanjjohnstone
KeymasterI never knew Murray Bookchin had written about Bernie Sanders in an early 1986 article, a critique by the proponent of libertarian municipalism of Sanders performance as Burlington’s mayor.
“…Bernard Sanders’ version of socialism is proving to be a subtle instrument for rationalizing the marketplace — not for controlling it, much less threatening it…”
https://libcom.org/library/bernie-sanders-paradox-when-socialism-grows-old
“…One might reasonably ask what Eugene V. Debs would do in the eighties if he were the mayor of a city like Burlington…A Debs would vigorously have tried to heal the rift between arms workers and peace activists, not exploit it. In the eighties, he would have been a fiery spokesperson for environmental, feminist, and gay causes. He would have fought unstintingly for a genuine people’s waterfront and tried in every way to foster an active, local democracy — not restrict citizens’s assemblies to rubber-stamping City Hall projects.
Perhaps most important, a Debs would have fostered the development of new municipal institutions that would enhance local control by municipalities over the authority of state and federal institutions. He would have brought Vermont towns together in lasting coalitions or confederations to countervail the growing centralization of power in Montpelier and Washington, not ad hoc municipal “lobbies” to gain local tax powers. Finally, a Debs would have tried to build a grassroots movement — an independent leftist movement — not surround himself with a coterie of personal followers that has the arrogance to call itself a “Progressive coalition.” Bernard Sanders has done virtually nothing that could be imputed to a Debs…”-
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July 5, 2019 at 7:50 am #188616ALB
KeymasterMore on the anarchist intervention in electoral activity in Burlington, Vermont, here. It is not all that edifying but at least they put aside their anti-election dogma:
https://newrepublic.com/article/154086/bernies-red-vermont
https://anarchyinaction.org/index.php?title=Burlington_Greens
July 5, 2019 at 9:01 am #188619alanjjohnstone
KeymasterReal Politik rules
July 5, 2019 at 9:50 am #188621Anonymous
InactiveOf course, though, Hoxha and Mao, and Stalin were all Leninists, as was Trotsky, and were ruthless advocates of state capitalism, which they cynically called socialism. So they did not reject Lenin at all, but were his heirs.
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