Reply to a Sanders supporter. The same goes for Corbyn.

April 2024 Forums General discussion Reply to a Sanders supporter. The same goes for Corbyn.

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  • #188579
    Anonymous
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    The USA society is so backward that they can not even elect a social democrat

    #188606
    alanjjohnstone
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    Jonathan Cook keeps rising in my estimation as a keen-eyed political commentator. Here is his analysis of the anti-Corbyn campaign

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/07/04/plot-keep-jeremy-corbyn-out-power

    #188610
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I never knew Murray Bookchin had written about Bernie Sanders in an early 1986 article, a critique by the proponent of  libertarian municipalism of Sanders performance as Burlington’s mayor.

    “…Bernard Sanders’ version of socialism is proving to be a subtle instrument for rationalizing the marketplace — not for controlling it, much less threatening it…”

    https://libcom.org/library/bernie-sanders-paradox-when-socialism-grows-old

    “…One might reasonably ask what Eugene V. Debs would do in the eighties if he were the mayor of a city like Burlington…A Debs would vigorously have tried to heal the rift between arms workers and peace activists, not exploit it. In the eighties, he would have been a fiery spokesperson for environmental, feminist, and gay causes. He would have fought unstintingly for a genuine people’s waterfront and tried in every way to foster an active, local democracy — not restrict citizens’s assemblies to rubber-stamping City Hall projects.
    Perhaps most important, a Debs would have fostered the development of new municipal institutions that would enhance local control by municipalities over the authority of state and federal institutions. He would have brought Vermont towns together in lasting coalitions or confederations to countervail the growing centralization of power in Montpelier and Washington, not ad hoc municipal “lobbies” to gain local tax powers. Finally, a Debs would have tried to build a grassroots movement — an independent leftist movement — not surround himself with a coterie of personal followers that has the arrogance to call itself a “Progressive coalition.” Bernard Sanders has done virtually nothing that could be imputed to a Debs…”

    #188616
    ALB
    Keymaster

    More on the anarchist intervention in electoral activity in Burlington, Vermont, here. It is not all that edifying but at least they put aside their anti-election dogma:

    https://newrepublic.com/article/154086/bernies-red-vermont

    https://anarchyinaction.org/index.php?title=Burlington_Greens

     

     

     

    #188619
    alanjjohnstone
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    Real Politik rules

    #188621
    Anonymous
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    Of course, though, Hoxha and Mao, and Stalin were all Leninists, as was Trotsky, and were ruthless advocates of state capitalism, which they cynically called socialism. So they did not reject Lenin at all, but were his heirs.

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